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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Have we even really defined what a prostitute is here?
If we are meaning paying for sex, then we all do that in some way or another, so we are then all prostitutes. The difference is, the people we are discussing in this thread are upfront about the cost of their "service."

I really didn't wanna have to go here, but I think we need to look deeper to the wisdom of the dear departed Chef for the true definition of prostitutes.



You see children, sometimes a man needs to be with a woman. But sometimes, when the lovin' is over the woman just want's to talk and talk and talk and talk.....




No you don't pay for her to stay, you pay for her to leave afterward....




posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
Would you really want your daughter doing this for a job though??

I asked the same question and got some very disturbing response.

It is truely sad how far low the society can stoop.


What you ARENT getting here is the difference between someone WANTING a loved one to do it and recognizing that person's RIGHT to do it.

But hey, I guess sticking up for any rights means you absolutely advocate it 100% in your mind.

In other words what you are indicating is treat the family member like a stranger by not advocating? hmmmm. Typical yuppy culture.

Sorry I just cannot ignore my family.

Anyway, it was fun. Gotta go for the day and tend to wife and kids.

Will catch up tomorrow if work is not busy.

Adios



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by hp1229


Yes It did existed in every society. So what about it? Do you continue to live the way the societies existed back in time? No. We improvise and fix some of the social and cultural issues that are/were perhaps long overlooked and overdue.

edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: edit content


Again, your hypocrissy is apparent.

Hitting kids=ok, as it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Prostitution=wrong, even though it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Personally, i think child abuse is a far more serious subject, but thats just me.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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The OP Is engaging in moral relativity. But who's to blame? The educational system for brainwashing people in secular and religious humanism.
Read the Humanist Manifesto and you will understand what is happening to the ethis of society. John Dewey authored the Humanist Manifesto by the way. It is the modus operandi of the educational system with a distinct goal of implanting moral relativity.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by Red Cloak
 


Well I've walked around several red light districts and the galls behind the windows even pay taxes here.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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What a pathetic discussion.....

I can almost see the initial premise on legalization but reading the individual defenses (and what almost seems like a preference) to this abhorrent profession which demoralizes and destroys EVERYONE involved in it (sorry mods, but no apology for caps) has almost convinced me society it just doomed. Doomed.

Wow, I am more depressed now than I was after reading the radiation thread.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229





1)Yup. Thats what people usually say when they dont have a rebuttle.

2)But you base nothing on fact, which is sad.

3)It has nothing to do with what you believe, but rather the obvious patterns your argument has taken.

4)Again, you do not know if I am a parent or not. Just admit what you advocate, and it will be fine. Arguing that hitting a kid is common and therefore should be tolerated, but that prostitution is common, but 'its icky' so it shouldnt be tolerated only reveals your hypocritical nature.

5)Define the term liberalization for me.

Better yet, ill do it:




In general, liberalization (or liberalisation) refers to a relaxation of previous government restrictions, usually in areas of social or economic policy. In some contexts this process or concept is often, but not always, referred to as deregulation.[1] Liberalization of autocratic regimes may precede democratization


en.wikipedia.org...

explain how in any way that is not a political term, would ya?

1) No point.
2) And you have all the facts?
3) Wow you're into multiple lines of profession.
4) I think you're ashamed to admit that you're a parent but willing to legalize prostitution.
5) Yes. Thankyou for the copy paste meaning of liberalisation (read the word 'social').



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229


Yes It did existed in every society. So what about it? Do you continue to live the way the societies existed back in time? No. We improvise and fix some of the social and cultural issues that are/were perhaps long overlooked and overdue.

edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: edit content


Again, your hypocrissy is apparent.

Hitting kids=ok, as it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Prostitution=wrong, even though it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Personally, i think child abuse is a far more serious subject, but thats just me.


Nice advice from someone who thinks prostitution should be legal and also willing to let their children adopt this profession. Who is the hypocrit?

Anyway. Will debate tomorrow if time permits. Gotta go home to a nice wife and kids (for those who truely believe in a family and have one).

Adios.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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reply to post by glad_to_be_His
 

The only person sex hurts is people that were brainwashed into being prudes by their family and or their community. People that aren't brainwashed into the cycle of guilt with sex, it not only doesn't harm us, it enriches our lives.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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reply to post by TheAmused
 


i agree but i think the reason the banned it to begin with is the rising rate of adds in soldiers during ww2....didn't stop them though.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Fine....be enriched.

Never mind the second line....

This is just infuriating me now. Right out of college I worked in a diner that happened to be at the end of a bridge that connected my community to let's just say....a very bad area. In my limited experience I both worked with a prostitue (who waitressed with me), and served a couple that I know of. Of the three....none of them were ok or happy and it had nothing to do with "prudishness" and everything to do with the utter lack of dignity they had becuase of the messes each got caught up in. All different stories and different levels of prostitution btw. One of the three was particulary heartbreaking as she had a beautiful son whom she tried like he** to protect from her lifestyle. So, so sad....they would come in for breakfast and she was such a great mom and tried so hard to provide a "normal" life for her son. Then she would come in with a john and coudln't even look me in the eye - it broke my heart; I would even throw people out of the place (young guys) for picking on her and her "profession"....she was sad as anything and she eventually overdosed. As we got to know each other she confided in me what hell her life was like and how she hoped no one would go that route. She even tried to discourage the girl I worked with. I can only imagine how her son took it all......

This is a pathetic attempt at defending something most likely few on this thread know anything about other than those who take advantage of the service. Blah!
edit on 28-3-2011 by glad_to_be_His because: (no reason given)


....and who ever said they had a problem with sex???? Sex does not equal prostitution. They are not one and the same. Sheesh......
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229





1)Yup. Thats what people usually say when they dont have a rebuttle.

2)But you base nothing on fact, which is sad.

3)It has nothing to do with what you believe, but rather the obvious patterns your argument has taken.

4)Again, you do not know if I am a parent or not. Just admit what you advocate, and it will be fine. Arguing that hitting a kid is common and therefore should be tolerated, but that prostitution is common, but 'its icky' so it shouldnt be tolerated only reveals your hypocritical nature.

5)Define the term liberalization for me.

Better yet, ill do it:




In general, liberalization (or liberalisation) refers to a relaxation of previous government restrictions, usually in areas of social or economic policy. In some contexts this process or concept is often, but not always, referred to as deregulation.[1] Liberalization of autocratic regimes may precede democratization


en.wikipedia.org...

explain how in any way that is not a political term, would ya?

1) No point.
2) And you have all the facts?
3) Wow you're into multiple lines of profession.
4) I think you're ashamed to admit that you're a parent but willing to legalize prostitution.
5) Yes. Thankyou for the copy paste meaning of liberalisation (read the word 'social').



1)Again, typical.
2)All the facts? Absolutely not, nor did I claim to. But you admit openly that you have NONE.
3)Again, lying about me does nt make your point any more valid.
4)No, Ive just already seen what you will do. If I tell you I have a daughter, you will say "So you want to see your daughter molested and abused?" If I tell you I have a wife, you are gonna say "you're ok with her being a prostitute". You are going to try and use it against me, as you already have, because you have no argument here. Your only recourse is emotional attacks.
5)Didnt bother to check out the definition I see. Social liberalization is still a political topic.

You are seriously REALLY bad at this.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by glad_to_be_His
 

The only person sex hurts is people that were brainwashed into being prudes by their family and or their community. People that aren't brainwashed into the cycle of guilt with sex, it not only doesn't harm us, it enriches our lives.


No no no, if one person thinks sex is icky, we all have to abide. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED SEXUAL INDIVIDUALITY, you got that?



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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Ruined
Except for Harry potter as a prime minister before our current one... A guy living with his mummy still...


I'd say we are doing marvelous...



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229


Yes It did existed in every society. So what about it? Do you continue to live the way the societies existed back in time? No. We improvise and fix some of the social and cultural issues that are/were perhaps long overlooked and overdue.

edit on 28-3-2011 by hp1229 because: edit content


Again, your hypocrissy is apparent.

Hitting kids=ok, as it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Prostitution=wrong, even though it is commonplace and has been throughout history.

Personally, i think child abuse is a far more serious subject, but thats just me.


Nice advice from someone who thinks prostitution should be legal and also willing to let their children adopt this profession. Who is the hypocrit?

Anyway. Will debate tomorrow if time permits. Gotta go home to a nice wife and kids (for those who truely believe in a family and have one).

Adios.


Advice? I paraphrased your own words. gave no advice. Have fun talking out of both sides of your mouth while controlling your wife and hitting your kids.


Afterall, if everyone who advocates the right to prostitution wants their kids to go into it, everyone who advocates spanking must be a full on abuser....at least if we follow your line of thinking
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by jaycen420
Prostitution is pretty much legal. Havent you herd of an Escort Agency? lol. they just charge more, plus prostitition is the oldest profession out there lol.


Exactly. You can just get the number in the phone book or off the net, call, and then you just pick in call or out call. So yeah, it pretty much is legal, since it's pretty much being allowed.


No, it does not make it legal, it makes it accessible, just like the neighborhood drug pusher makes drugs accessible to young kids. Does that make it right? How about the pimps who run their scams and beat up people who get in their game? Or who drug young girls? The seedy side of this is morally reprehensible. I am tired of this pretend Libertarian nonsense. True Liberty does not mean just doing whatever any one wants and forget what it does to others. Legalizing something like this just sends the signal that society approves of morally reprehensible behavior, and what message does that give impressionable young people?



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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The oldest profession known to man and you go all blasphemy on it. There are people that actually choose this line of work. Let them have that choice. Fascism and communism was from the past right...?

Everybody sells his or hers body for money. Usually getting less payed for more hours even...



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by Red Cloak
 


Well I've walked around several red light districts and the galls behind the windows even pay taxes here.


Red Light Districts are notoriously crummy areas of town. It really does bring down the property values...



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Matt1951
Should be legal. Our overworked police need to be able to focus on real crime.


that is to the point man !!!

just happy we do not have prohibition any longer
overwork for the police not necessary !
but yes, they could focus more on real crime instead of cigar porn !!!



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Red Cloak

Originally posted by jaycen420
Prostitution is pretty much legal. Havent you herd of an Escort Agency? lol. they just charge more, plus prostitition is the oldest profession out there lol.


Exactly. You can just get the number in the phone book or off the net, call, and then you just pick in call or out call. So yeah, it pretty much is legal, since it's pretty much being allowed.


No, it does not make it legal, it makes it accessible, just like the neighborhood drug pusher makes drugs accessible to young kids. Does that make it right? How about the pimps who run their scams and beat up people who get in their game? Or who drug young girls? The seedy side of this is morally reprehensible. I am tired of this pretend Libertarian nonsense. True Liberty does not mean just doing whatever any one wants and forget what it does to others. Legalizing something like this just sends the signal that society approves of morally reprehensible behavior, and what message does that give impressionable young people?


Just like all the others, you are using things that are CAUSED by the fact that it is illegal to make an argument that it should stay illegal.

Abuses happen, for the most part, because there is no recourse. This gives them recourse.

Regulation would all but eliminate underage workers. There would be no pimps, which means the drugging and kidnapping would diminish greatly.

And nothing about sex is reprehensible. NOTHING. I feel bad for anyone who thinks it is.....
Again though, I see this is just a sounding board for your political views, so Ill take my leave....






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