prostitution should be legalized

reply to post by hp1229


Regardless of any comments about emotional issues, I am sure everyone here is capable of discussion.

I would just like to single out the one killer point that you didn't address, in my mind it trumps all other conversation that you two are having about this issue.

2)You have no right to force ANYTHING on another adult, in any sense.

He might be getting down to name calling, but he is generally right about this.

Edit: Would love to continue this interesting conversation, but I have to go. (Not being sarcastic)

I want the proof that prostitution causes divorce.

Because several of the greatest societies that existed on this planet had not only legal prostitution, but institutionalized prostitution. Prostitution was seen as a holy and righteous service by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Aztecs, and Mayans, and the Japanese and Chinese for thousands of years.

Saying it over and over again, is NOT proof. It's parroting.

Originally posted by XLR8R
reply to post by sonofliberty1776

 

Prostitution is not leagal BECAUSE the PTB cannot tax it. Same reason as marijuana. They can not keep tabs on it so they make it illegal.

Common are you serious ?

Well if the folks who want it legalized can sure propose to surgically implant a mileage meter in the prostitutes so they can't lie and we can surely tax them That too remotely using RFID scanner Everybody is happy.

I give my fiance money all the time.
We have sex.

Isn't that the same as prostitution?

Legalize it.

Originally posted by hp1229


1) I never asked anyone to follow me. I am not dictating anything to anyone. It is your insecurities that gives you the illusion.

You might be right. I might not know much about prostitution. You seem to know about it all and feel strong about the legalizing of the industry

Since when did you become a shrink to think that I have emotional problems ? Are you sure its not the other way around ?

3) Spanking and Yelling is all too normal in any family that have kids. Once again one has to be a parent to understand and experience

4) Glad you got the point that I didnt invoke politics. God and Politics are not my favorite subjects of discussion

1)Yes you did, You wish something to be illegal based on your emotional feelings on it. Not one shred of fact, just your emotions. How many more times are you going to flat out lie?

2) I never claimed to know everything about the subject, but at the very least I have studied it. You on the other hand, have nothing but your emotions to base your argument on.

3)Its pretty obvious. Everything you have posted has been emotionally charged. You are unable to seperate emotion from logic and fact here. Yo also *TRIED* to use emotions to get me going, but it didnt work (in fact, i called you out on it before you even did it).

4)Spanking and yelling at kids in public (which is what you said) are again, emotional outbursts. Abuse. But you dont know if I have kids, so using the old 'until you have kids, you cant understand argument' is a bit of a reach. Just admit it- you advocate violence against your children.

But hey, lets go down your line of thinking for a minute. Prostitution is very normal in every society. Therefore, you should accept it. Right?

5)You DID bring politics into this when you called it 'liberalization'. Again, dont make the comments if you wont own them.

Originally posted by Butterbone
I want the proof that prostitution causes divorce.

Because several of the greatest societies that existed on this planet had not only legal prostitution, but institutionalized prostitution. Prostitution was seen as a holy and righteous service by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Aztecs, and Mayans, and the Japanese and Chinese for thousands of years.

Saying it over and over again, is NOT proof. It's parroting.

nobody cares about divorce : remember : everybody is just FREE with his own life !!
want to get stoned ? want to get drunk ? want prostitute ? want divorce ? go your own way and do not disturb other people with your way of living, but do not disturb them also with your stupid laws !!!
go your own way, you do not have to say what your fellow man/woman has to do except if they hurt other people ok ? ( so I agree with you anyway you know !! - just have to put on the nail ).

Originally posted by Butterbone
I want the proof that prostitution causes divorce.

Because several of the greatest societies that existed on this planet had not only legal prostitution, but institutionalized prostitution. Prostitution was seen as a holy and righteous service by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Aztecs, and Mayans, and the Japanese and Chinese for thousands of years.

Saying it over and over again, is NOT proof. It's parroting.

Now that I have heard and read about. In the ancient societies the prostitutes were respected upto certain extent and they knew their rightful place in the society. Society was thankful to the prostitutes from keeping the wandering and single men and their lust in check.

However the times have changed since then in terms of Technology and Globalization along with the aspirations, thought process and knowledge itself. We have evolved much more further in terms of consciousness about the evolution and the history itself.

Would you really want your daughter doing this for a job though??

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Huh...

What are you talking about man !?

Prostitution is perfectly legal... When did they illegalize it then ??? I must have missed it

edit on 3/28/2011 by Sinter Klaas because: (no reason given)

Like I said, escort services.

I guess if that's all there is....right??

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

1) Now you sound like my wife. No point in responding.

2) Good for you. That will make you a Prostitutionologist. I do not base things solely on emotions but also around lessons learned in life and from multiple cultures.

3) You can stop performing your psychoanalysis just because you do not agree with what I believe

4) Again, you have to be a parent. No excuses. Public or non-public yelling at kids is still the business of a parent and not the government. Is this what we're coming down to even in the US where spanking and punishment was common?

5) Wow. So liberalization only belongs to Political world? What about liberalization of social norms and taboos? or Liberalization of your mind?

Yes It did existed in every society. So what about it? Do you continue to live the way the societies existed back in time? No. We improvise and fix some of the social and cultural issues that are/were perhaps long overlooked and overdue.

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
Would you really want your daughter doing this for a job though??

I asked the same question and got some very disturbing response.

It is truely sad how far low the society can stoop.

Should be legal. Our overworked police need to be able to focus on real crime.

reply to post by hp1229


Sorry I really didn't want to read through 17 pages, I didn't mean to say something that has already been said.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

1) Now you sound like my wife. No point in responding.

2) Good for you. That will make you a Prostitutionologist. I do not base things solely on emotions but also around lessons learned in life and from multiple cultures.

3) You can stop performing your psychoanalysis just because you do not agree with what I believe

4) Again, you have to be a parent. No excuses. Public or non-public yelling at kids is still the business of a parent and not the government. Is this what we're coming down to even in the US where spanking and punishment was common?

5) Wow. So liberalization only belongs to Political world? What about liberalization of social norms and taboos? or Liberalization of your mind?

1)Yup. Thats what people usually say when they dont have a rebuttle.

2)But you base nothing on fact, which is sad.

3)It has nothing to do with what you believe, but rather the obvious patterns your argument has taken.

4)Again, you do not know if I am a parent or not. Just admit what you advocate, and it will be fine. Arguing that hitting a kid is common and therefore should be tolerated, but that prostitution is common, but 'its icky' so it shouldnt be tolerated only reveals your hypocritical nature.

5)Define the term liberalization for me.

Better yet, ill do it:

In general, liberalization (or liberalisation) refers to a relaxation of previous government restrictions, usually in areas of social or economic policy. In some contexts this process or concept is often, but not always, referred to as deregulation.[1] Liberalization of autocratic regimes may precede democratization

en.wikipedia.org...

explain how in any way that is not a political term, would ya?

Originally posted by BrnBdry
I give my fiance money all the time.
We have sex.
Isn't that the same as prostitution?
Legalize it.

logically yes that will make marriage look like nothing more than prostitutional contract.

But we are bound through loyalty, respect, dignity, love and emotions with a fiance and a wife. Oops. Did I use the wrong word ? EMOTION

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
Would you really want your daughter doing this for a job though??

I asked the same question and got some very disturbing response.

It is truely sad how far low the society can stoop.

What you ARENT getting here is the difference between someone WANTING a loved one to do it and recognizing that person's RIGHT to do it.

But hey, I guess sticking up for any rights means you absolutely advocate it 100% in your mind.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by BrnBdry
I give my fiance money all the time.
We have sex.
Isn't that the same as prostitution?
Legalize it.

logically yes that will make marriage look like nothing more than prostitutional contract.

But we are bound through loyalty, respect, dignity, love and emotions with a fiance and a wife. Oops. Did I use the wrong word ? EMOTION

Nope, not the wrong word. Just a poor form of debate.

Originally posted by RSF77
reply to post by hp1229

 

Regardless of any comments about emotional issues, I am sure everyone here is capable of discussion.

I would just like to single out the one killer point that you didn't address, in my mind it trumps all other conversation that you two are having about this issue.

2)You have no right to force ANYTHING on another adult, in any sense.

He might be getting down to name calling, but he is generally right about this.

Edit: Would love to continue this interesting conversation, but I have to go. (Not being sarcastic)

edit on 28-3-2011 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)

You are right in your own way of thinking. To me stopping a loved one (family member) is not 'another' but someone from my own domain. If the family members will not pull through during tough and turbulent times then who will? Outsiders? If you leave the outsiders to promote and not force the decision making capabilities then you surely will have to see the after math of that in our societies today. But we can discuss that someother time as I have to go as well.

Adios.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by BrnBdry
I give my fiance money all the time.
We have sex.
Isn't that the same as prostitution?
Legalize it.

logically yes that will make marriage look like nothing more than prostitutional contract.

But we are bound through loyalty, respect, dignity, love and emotions with a fiance and a wife. Oops. Did I use the wrong word ? EMOTION

Nope, not the wrong word. Just a poor form of debate.

Poor form of debate if you feel that emotions are not natural part of being a human. To me, emotions are just as important along with facts.

Then again, it all depends on the upbringing and the surroundings where one is ordered and asked to follow and not think and use emotions to make a decision.