prostitution should be legalized

Originally posted by Griffo
reply to post by aero56

 

Well technically it is true; with prostitution we pay women directly for sex, with a marriage or relationship, we pay women indirectly for sex

edit on 28/3/2011 by Griffo because: (no reason given)

I could not agree more. No matter what, it is never "free" there is always a cost. Prostitutes do not get alimony though, so that is one reason to support it.

I have never engaged in or supported prostitution in any way, but I agree with the OP. It SHOULD be perfectly legal, but supported by a medical organization, you cannot suppress the vast and sometimes aggressive human sex drive just because you have a moral opinion. Participants in prostitution know what they are doing, the negative side effects stem in part from the fact that it is illegal and people tend to be more careful with the legal ramifications of it than the biological, as it has more short term consequences. Like has been said before, Las Vegas has several prostitution businesses that from what I can tell accomplish their goal very cleanly and with no emotional problems in the girls, the clients even seem to be more prone to related emotional problems than the girls who work there. It is even prohibited for a client to give the girls roses in a few of them, if not all.

Anyone who thinks that it is bringing our entire species down needs to realize that their sphere of influence only rightfully extends between their ears. As if its their business if someone they don't know gets laid for money or not.

As for the morality of it, prostitution to me is a far more morally acceptable than many of the things allegedly moral people are doing these days, like extensive but pointless decade long wars. Morality is a strange concept in that your idea of it is never the same as everyone elses, get over it.

Now the final point, which is also the most important in my mind:

That being said, it is 100% definitely without a doubt not the governments business who our sexual partners are and for what reasons. At least I would like to say that most Americans feel the same way about that last point, I know I do.

Originally posted by oaf21

 

Can you please point me to the evidence proving that drive-thru whore-houses are on the way and that no male is going to ever want to marry again should prostitution ever be made legal?

I would, just because I am a one woman kind of guy. Though I can see the fear in a (*) middle aged housewives face when she realizes that sex is part of marriage and if she doesn't provide it, her husband will be able to freely get it elsewhere.

(*) Insert the word voting here and you will understand why it will always be illegal.

Originally posted by hp1229
What matters is the end result and success ratio of marriage and studies in a child under stricter house rules.

Oh, good. Then you understand that there is overwhelming scientific evidence that verbal and physical harshness in parenting leads to unfavorable results in child-rearing, including higher rates of imprisonment and death. Even short of that, it's very clear that punishment generally results in the opposite of the intended effect. Here's just one sample from one study's abstract:

The relationship between parenting practices and behavior problems in very young children was investigated via the Parent Behavior Checklist (PBC; Fox, 1994). Results indicated that parents' use of verbal and corporal punishment was the strongest predictor of reported behavior problems...heldref-publications.metapress.com...

So unfortunately, your theory that permissive parenting leads to crimes like prostitution is more than just prima facie ridiculous, it's verifiably erroneous.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
reply to post by hp1229

 

Yeah cause noone in Finland marries either. Also sex deceases and drugs and all that is running rampant here. Acopalypse is coming!!!

Just because society all over is becoming crazy, you know FUKUSHIMA etc .. do you think it is making us feel cool ??... nice ??
neo-capitalism ( PROFIT is the highest virtue you know, $$$ greed is highest virtue ( BP oil spill, Fukushima security failing ) so what.... neo-cons and neo-capitalists are making us sick, crazy and apathic, not necessarily drugs, wodka or porn fake love !!!
we have to fight against neo-con neo-capitalism !! read about this, it is the root of our crazy stupid world !!!

reply to post by TheAmused

There is no legal or moral reason prostitution cant be legal.

My Grand mother, mother and I all agree with you - that covers well over a century

If prostitution is legal it has a lot of advantages:

1. The women AND the johns get health checks/certs
2. Women will not be as abused or at least they would be able to report it.
3. It would increase TAX revenue

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by hp1229

1) Again with the emotional and personal based arguments. No one is talking about advocating molestation and abuse. You are one of the single worst sensationalists I have ever seen on this board. Really very pathetic.

2)So you believe you have a right to force you beliefs onto others?

3)So, again, you admit that you advocate physical and verbal abuse. Fair enough.

4)You are the one who brought up the term liberal, which is a political term. So ill throw your question right back at you: Why does it have to go political? I certainly wasnt the one who took it there.

1) Not everything in life is factual. It will be too robotic if every single thing needed an evidence or fact. Can you tell me where do humans come from? Thankyou for your compliments. Just because I do not agree with you?

2)Sure i have a right to force my beliefs onto others (Family Members) upto certain extent.

3)No I do not advocate verbal and physical abuse. I advocate verbal discipline.

4) Nevermind.

Originally posted by aero56
...for every whore you have sex with, you are having sex with every person he or she has had sex with...

That's true of anyone, whether they are a prostitute or not... What's your point?

If prostitution is legalized, there would be regulations. Protection (from pregnancy AND STDs) would be required. There would actually be LESS pregnancy, abortion and STD if it were legalized.

To pay for that is even more repulsive.

I don't understand how the involvement of payment makes it repulsive to YOU, but it is not repulsive to me.

reply to post by NerdGoddess


It will destroy the nation. It will destroy the very fiber of which we are made. If prostitution is legalized, we are finished.

reply to post by aero56


They said that about alcohol during prohibition, too.

Someone offers a service for a price. A consumer wants that service, agrees to pay said price. I see nothing different than any other job out there. Some people will actually have a job they enjoy if it were legalized, we can't have that can we?

Originally posted by hp1229


1) Not everything in life is factual. It will be too robotic if every single thing needed an evidence or fact. Can you tell me where do humans come from? Thankyou for your compliments. Just because I do not agree with you?

2)Sure i have a right to force my beliefs onto others (Family Members) upto certain extent.

3)No I do not advocate verbal and physical abuse. I advocate verbal discipline.

4) Nevermind.

1)Not everything in life is factual, but why should YOUR emotions dictate rule of law for EVERYONE. And once it is law, it becomes a fact. So having a factual basis becomes fairly important.

You obviously have some emotional issues when it comes to this subject-perhaps you ought to gt a solid understanding of the subject, it may help calm your emotions.

2)You have no right to force ANYTHING on another adult, in any sense. Again, it is a sad statement that you think so. I pity your wife.

3)You advocate spanking and yelling at kids. That is not discipline, that is an emotional outburst.
Abuse.

Again, its becoming more and more clear that you have some emotional issues....

4)Good.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
reply to post by hp1229

 

Yeah cause noone in Finland marries either. Also sex deceases and drugs and all that is running rampant here. Acopalypse is coming!!!

That is sad if its true since only thing I know about finland is FINLANDIA Vodka and Mika Hakkinen and Kimi Raikkonen

As per the arguements that I've been commenting and responding on this thread, it will be LEGAL atleast That will make things alright and people will get screwed one way or the other legally (disease, lack of healthy newborns to sustain a growing and thriving economy etc )

Many things that should be legalized, haven't been legalized. An argument based on facts will not rule over a country run by emotion and feelings.

I think it should be legalized also.

It's more disturbing to me to see how young girls are dressed and 'made up' in our society and every music video is geared toward sex and selling it. Now there's a padded bikini bra for 'tweens', girls that haven't even reached puberty. Society is geared toward the exploitation and sale of youthful bodies.

I don't believe legalizing prostitution will increase the divorce rate. It's already there for the taking and any man or woman can find a way. If anything, legalization would make it more safe.

i think its ridiculous that its illegal!

i also think that most ppl who get done for it are a bit silly...

i am not intersrted in it as i have a gf who is all that i ever wished for

but surely in this day and age there is no reason why a prozzer+punter situation cant be arrainged discretely without standing on a street corner!

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

It's simple and anyone with any sense of respect and dignity knows it; for every whore you have sex with, you are having sex with every person he or she has had sex with....that is repulsive. To pay for that is even more repulsive.

yeah, ok, and what then ??? who are you to judge other persons ???
get out of our life, just live yours and judge yourself, not our life !!
you think you are above us ? more moral ? maybe you are just a poor little stupid sex maniac .. who knows but I do not want to know and you do not have to know about other people as long as they do not hurt other people ,ok ??? are you tea party puppet judge ? go to hell and drink another teapot !

Originally posted by aero56
reply to post by NerdGoddess

 

It will destroy the nation. It will destroy the very fiber of which we are made. If prostitution is legalized, we are finished.

based on what? Every model we have to study right now says it would HELP this nation....

reply to post by aero56


This nation was built on prostitution and has pretty much gone downhill since it was made illegal.

The nut jobs will point towards all this hedonism as the downfall of civilization but the true downfall happened long ago and people rebelling and acting out instead of this being a normal part of life is what will ruin the nation.

Keep your morality to yourself it is only important when it effects the freedom of choice of another person.

Originally posted by hp1229

Originally posted by PsykoOps
reply to post by hp1229

 

Yeah cause noone in Finland marries either. Also sex deceases and drugs and all that is running rampant here. Acopalypse is coming!!!

That is sad if its true since only thing I know about finland is FINLANDIA Vodka and Mika Hakkinen and Kimi Raikkonen

As per the arguements that I've been commenting and responding on this thread, it will be LEGAL atleast

That will make things alright and people will get screwed one way or the other legally (disease, lack of healthy newborns to sustain a growing and thriving economy etc )

Ill ask you again, for waht seems like the 100th time-what do you back up this claim with? Where are your facts? Or is it still 'cuz you says so'?

Originally posted by sepermeru
Oh, good. Then you understand that there is overwhelming scientific evidence that verbal and physical harshness in parenting leads to unfavorable results in child-rearing, including higher rates of imprisonment and death. Even short of that, it's very clear that punishment generally results in the opposite of the intended effect. Here's just one sample from one study's abstract:

The relationship between parenting practices and behavior problems in very young children was investigated via the Parent Behavior Checklist (PBC; Fox, 1994). Results indicated that parents' use of verbal and corporal punishment was the strongest predictor of reported behavior problems...heldref-publications.metapress.com...

So unfortunately, your theory that permissive parenting leads to crimes like prostitution is more than just prima facie ridiculous, it's verifiably erroneous.

Research family life in China and you will find contradictory evidence. In fact there is a difference between strictness out of spite and goal oriented punishment, I think you may be confusing the two.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by aero56
...for every whore you have sex with, you are having sex with every person he or she has had sex with...

That's true of anyone, whether they are a prostitute or not... What's your point?

Yes and if someone sneezes on you, you are sneezing with every person they ever sneezed with. If you exist on this planet, you are existing with everyone that existed. Just thought aeros words were funny and incredibly cliche.