URGENT plant operator says radioactivity in water at reactor No. 2 10 million times usual level

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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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I was thinking the same exact thing? More or less our air and water is still poison


NO!

That is MSM hysteria - it sells papers.

I f you want reasonable info I found a site where decent sources without the hysteria added.

Your One Stop Fukushima Info Post -Updated March 27th: truenorthist.wordpress.com...-317



reliable sources for nuclear power news - the best three:

www.world-nuclear-news.org...

mitnse.com...

ansnuclearcafe.org...



Remember the blasted bankers OWN the MSM
U.S. Congressional Record February 9, 1917: J.P. Morgan interests bought 25 of America's leading newspapers, and inserted their own editors, in order to control the media. www.mindfully.org...

JP Morgan: Our next big media player? (April 13, 2010) JP Morgan controls 54 U.S. daily newspapers,and owns 31 television stations. www.newsandtech.com...

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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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More Info:

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crosspatch says:
March 27, 2011 at 1:30 am

This is a breakdown of the contamination found in the basements of those turbine buildings:

bravenewclimate.files.wordpress.com...

The chlorine-38 is due to activation of chlorine-37 from sea salt from the sea water being used to cool the reactors. It has a short half-life and will decline as they switch to fresh water.

The Cs-134 also has a very short half life. The I-131 has a half life of 8 days. That accounts for the majority of the radioactivity of that water. The Cs-137 has a longer half-life but once the other materials decay, there isn’t enough of it by itself to be hazardous.

There is no strontium-90.

The chlorine will eventually become argon and be vented with the steam. Same eventually with the sodium after passing through several phases of neutron activation.
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crosspatch says:
March 27, 2011 at 1:32 am

Informative information dump here:

bravenewclimate.com...
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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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FINALLY a reasonable explaination!


crosspatch says:
March 27, 2011 at 1:45 am

“It seems that 1000 mSv per hour is present in some parts, that is not a small amount, 2 days working in that and you would be dead.”

It depends on the type of radiation. You could work in that level of radiation for a month if it was all alpha radiation and you had no exposed skin. The workers got exposed to beta radiation. A pair of hip waders would have protected them. Beta penetrates a bit more than alpha, but not much more. They got what amounts to a sunburn.

Now that level of radiation from gamma rays would likely kill someone. So it isn’t just the amount of radiation so much as it is the type of radiation. External radiation (as opposed to ingestion) of alpha or beta rays isn’t going to hurt you much. Gamma radiation is a different story.

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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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ATS is ALL OVER THIS since the beginning , but put your thinking cap on you got 375+ pages to catch up on



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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That is what you get from pumping in sea water.

Pure water will hold very little radioactivity as the water breaks down under bombardment.

Sea water has a lot of dissolved minerals many that can become highly radioactive when in contact with the fuel rods.

over filling the spent fuel pool with sea water could be the source of this water.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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"REUTERSFLASH ReutersBreakingNews Japan nuclear plant operator says very high radiation reading at reactor no. 2 was wrong"



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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It's time to invade Japan, fix the Fuku-Mess we can no longer watch this show TEPCO and the japanese government is performing. This is getting ridiculous. The russians didn't mess around with Chernobyl like the Japanese are doing. They keep monkeying around with these reactors It's like they are in denial or something. You can't just keep pumping water in and out forever. Something has to be done



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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Ridiculous, can you think about anything else but war?
The initial report has long since been refuted anyway.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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ok 10 million is ridiculously high.. i found that they have changed the number to 100,000 times the government set standards... but thats still ridiculous i mean really how much damage could that do to the surroundings? or to the global enviroment for that matter?

TEPCO Corrects Number to 100,000 Times Normal, Anti-Nuclear Demonstration in Tokyo


www.majiroxnews.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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The Massachusetts Department of Public Health Said Sunday that very low concentrations of radioiodine-131, likely associated with the Japan nuclear power plant event, have been detected in a rainwater sample



www.thebostonchannel.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Gentlemen please, I believe the Japanese have top men working around the clock fixing this technical anomaly as we speak. I suggest we go back to our regular schedules and watch Dancing with the Stars together. C'mon now, I'll even make a thread so we can discuss the latest show. I have a theory the show is completely RIGGED!



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:41 PM
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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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posted by JohnnyWarbucks
Gentlemen please, I believe the Japanese have top men working around the clock fixing this technical anomaly as we speak.


You call this a technical anomaly? You are a laughing stalk. This is a nuclear disaster that you and the rest of us are witnessing.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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your kidding, right?



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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For those of you who have any doubt about the effects of radiation, and/or who think Ann Coulter is some kind of genius, take a few minutes from your busy lives to watch the photo essay linked below.

It's the minimum you can do if you truly want to know the truth about disasters like Chernobyl. It's not a pleasant experience watching this, but the truth is sometimes not so pretty.

In the years to come, when children in Japan (and potentially elsewhere) contract leukemia, some of you are going to get your wake-up call big-time.


Yes, they may. Probably not near the #'s you probably predict, but there will be fallout. It won't be nearly as bad as many here think (or sadly, hope) it may be, but there will be fallout. It's a nuclear reactor. If it goes wrong, this happens.

And whose fault is it? Oh yes.. the evil governments or evil power companies faults. Even though, our towns and cities would not exist without this power. Do you think for a moment France would choose instead, to live a fraction of how well they are now, what-with their country being over 70% nuclear power? No.. people want luxuries. They want power. They want convenience. And it's all well and good until something goes wrong, and then it's amazing how fast they cry foul, and want someone's head.

I think there should be greater accountability with nuclear power - there should be no wiggle room. But honestly.. it was a 9.0 earthquake and a huge tsunami. It was a freak of nature, a rare occurred. And people are acting as if it were planned, and that people should be punished.

Humanity is such a dredge.. I hope some day people get enlightened. The amount of two-faced hypocrisy amongst many populations make me sick. Is this bad? Sure. Is it catastrophic? No. And not NEARLY as bad as people here say it is.

Or much worse.. that they HOPE it is. Try to tell me with a straight face that a large % of people here (and in fact, across the world), hope this resolves without an issue. People here hope for a tragedy. They live for a disaster. The worse, the better. Many people here make me sick.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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JohnnyWarBucks, You should be banned for displaying such ignorance!

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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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I seen today how they said this statement had been retracted since first announced late last night.

I should have known something was wrong when the msm grabbed it up so fast and spammed it. When you think about it it makes sense. 10 million times of anything is a ridiculous number. Truly.... One that cant be believed...Think about it.Thats like a cop giving you a speeding ticket for 700 miles per hour.It would be laughed out of court and quickly refuted.Same thing happening here...



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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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When Chernobyl experienced full meltdown, the area around the reactor core registered 300 sieverts per hour. "Normal" background radiation exposure is generally accepted to be in the neighborhood of 2.4 millisieverts per year. Divide that by 365 days X 24 hours/day and we get .00000027 sieverts per hour. 10,000,000 times that number is 2.7 sieverts per hour, well within what could be presumed to be realistically present inside a leaking reactor.

Personally, I believe the readings were accurate and the media threw the 10 million number out there gleefully to shock the unlearned masses. The officials realized that it was a hell of a lot more difficult to attempt to explain mathematics to people than it is to just say "Oops, our bad. Reading was erroneous, carry on with your day."

I am basing this on the original version of the news article I saw which cited background radiation as the baseline, not the later one which started calling it 10 million times the safe exposire limit. In many ways, the Japanese officials have already demonstrated that any numbers they give out are completely bogus based purely on this constantly floating "dangerous exposure limit." That should be a medically based number which shouldn't change. It's kind of along the same lines as constantly changing the location where you take baseline temperatures to assure you steadily get a climbing global temperature, thus pushing the Global Warming agenda through completely compromised numbers. Imagine the field day OSHA would have in the US if exposure limits were modified everytime conditions worsened to insure workers weren't pulled from a cite for safety concerns.





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