It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Our strange and awkward history of space transmissions

page: 1
10

log in

join
share:

posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:07 PM
link   
The universe and our methods of trying to communicate with other beings has always been improving. One of these day our attemps will yield some results in the years to come. As technology progresses im sure we will have more frequent sightings of UFO's in near future.



Ever since humanity has been able to launch projectiles into space to take nosey pictures that make us all feel insignificant, a major priority has been to somehow communicate with any alien life forms that might come across this space detritus and wonder who shot a space probe right into their upper atmosphere. Using physics, mathematics, art, and even Earth’s greatest weapon (Carl Sagan), our species has painstakingly crafted the first tentative social overtures towards the magnificent extraterrestrials we hope are listening.



The Morse Message (1962)


This audio salute, one of the first radio signals intended specifically for interstellar intelligence, was meant as a test of the new Evpatoria Planetary Radar (EPR). In November 1962, the Unique Korenberg Telescope Array transmitted the greeting towards Venus, using simple Morse Code. Given the location of Venus in November 1962, the message is even now winging its way towards Libra.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3d46d0472e3b.jpg[/atsimg]


The Pioneer plagues (1972,1973)


Mounted to Pioneer spacecraft before they made their merry way into the inhospitable reaches of space outside the solar system, the Pioneer Plaque was the first—but not the last!—interstellar communiqué in which Carl Sagan had a say. Attached to both Pioneers and positioned to minimize the corrosive effects of solar dust, the plaque might well be the first thing an alien culture knows about us. (Well, the plaque, and also the fact that we hurl things into space and aim them right at you.)


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2e056adce166.jpg[/atsimg]


The Arecibo Message (1974)


Taking what they had learned from the Pioneer message and fine-tuning it, Frank Drake and Carl Sagan built a richer, stronger, mathier greeting card on the second go-round. The message was beamed out into space only once in 1974, aimed at the M13 star cluster, and consisted of 1679 digits (binary, naturally) that, when collected, formed a picture that gave a very Pong picture of our little blue planet.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6b191f4ead35.png[/atsimg]


Voyager Golden Records (1977)


Among the most poetic of humanity’s letters to the universe, the Golden Record sent into space with each of the Voyager probes is more a symbol than a pointed communiqué—the spacecraft are so small that when they stop emitting radiation, they’ll be almost impossible to detect in the vastness of space, especially as it’s still a good 40,000 years away from the nearest star (AC+79 3888).


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/018010c38ad0.jpg[/atsimg]


Cosmic Call (1999,2003)


The Cosmic Call, broadcast from Evpatoria in 1999 and 2003 and sent to nine different stars, is perhaps our most serious attempt at a spacegoing message. With several messages and repetitions per broadcast, and the widest directional net, this might well be the message most likely to get us noticed.

The 1999 Cosmic Call contains the Dutil-Dumas Message (the “Interstellar Rosetta stone,” built on a series of symbols), the Brastaad Message (which uses the mathematical language of the Dutil-Dumas Message to give more information on message sponsor Team Encounter), the Arecibo Message, and a staff message from Team Encounter. The 2003 edition substituted a Bilingual Image Glossary for the Braastad Message, showing concepts such as Family.


There may or may not be any chance of success finding other life in the cosmos but if we as a human race ever wish to get a full understanding of the universe then it is our responsibility to make contact with other life forms. Whether for good or bad intentions, we must upgrade our technology to new heights and learn what is out there. Here is to new frontiers in space and maybe to to find our true purpose in the universe.



www.lightspeedmagazine.com...< br />
en.wikipedia.org...

www.enterprisemission.com...



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:09 PM
link   
I think we figured out that those broadcast we sent out the stars didn't come anywhere close to getting there too.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:17 PM
link   
Supposed Arecibo reply:



Came in the form of a crop formation about 10 years ago.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:19 PM
link   
I often wonder with all these messages and attempts to contact other races or species. Is it really so wise to broadcast our location and basic information.... We wouldnt want a dangerous or malevolant species coming our way would we? That is of course unless we have already had contact....



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:28 PM
link   

Originally posted by Havick007
I often wonder with all these messages and attempts to contact other races or species. Is it really so wise to broadcast our location and basic information.... We wouldnt want a dangerous or malevolant species coming our way would we? That is of course unless we have already had contact....


They may have thought of this already and are most likely working on a counter-offensive should we be brutally victimized by unfriendly ET's. Our future is constantly changing and hard to see the outcome of it all. Im sure it will balance out in the end.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:37 PM
link   
I have a feeling any advanced civilization would already know we are here regardless, seeing as how long there has been complex life on this planet.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:45 PM
link   
reply to post by AdamsMurmur
 



I was thinking along the same lines.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3179dae17df8.jpg[/atsimg]

binary decoded message


Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN But Still time.(unclear word).There is GOOD out there.We oppose DECEPTION.COnduit CLOSING\




If this is made by true masterminds, all this confusion is not an error. I think the word "BELIEVE" is supposed to be found, but there is also a hint that there is something hidden beneath the surface. Probably the English text is only one level of the code, the simple sentences and odd using of capitals suggest this also. The deeper level may have information related to DNA. There is a scientist studying this possibility and I wait for his final conclusions. Also connections to the Mayan / Aztec Calendars are possible. Look at the message now: Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN But Still time.BELIEVE.There is GOOD out there.We oppose DECEPTION.COnduit CLOSING\ And the problematic word once more with the "extra bits" added in they decimal values (0101 equals 5): B1ELIE5VE How I understand the message? There are people (institutions) who give us false gifts ("Signs" & other movies, alien toys, wrong ideologies etc.) and broken promises (not revealing important information, false political promises etc.). These people also give us the idea of an alien threat. There is much pain among people because all these false actions and attitudes of the elite. But we must BELIEVE: there is GOOD OUT THERE - meaning the POSITIVE E.T. and other beings. WE OPPOSE DECEPTION. "WE" is the GOOD aliens (even if it's spoken by human representatives).


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5eb361e5f81c.gif[/atsimg]



This painting raises some questions.




And then, painting in Uzpekistan (a country in Asia, not far from Tibet). Apparently this painting was done by a Russian artist in 1967, as a part of a project for an international UFO related magazine.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1c8a65a16cd9.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/195b3585d1e4.jpg[/atsimg]


Alien & Code formation, Crabwood



what are they going to do about the response's we have gotten? how much longer can we ignore the responses?

Great thread it is cool to see a timeline of how serious we humans take the idea of intelligent life.
although we have come a long way imagine where we could be without all the setbacks and closed minded ridicule this topic has received...





posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 07:50 PM
link   
reply to post by Stop-loss!
 


Amazing thread SL!


Our attempts to communicate with ET must make us seem like a very amateur civilization, but if they are so advanced, they will probably understand our intensions very well.


S+F!




posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 08:04 PM
link   
reply to post by Stop-loss!
 


It was interesting and news to me to hear that the Soviets chose to send a message of Venus in November of 1962. That particular attempt, versus, for example, sending it to Mars, supports my contention that the Soviets were convinced that Venus was the home of the UFOs, and they wanted to be the first from Earth to signal "Hello." Most of their early missions were aimed to Venus, and they didn't give up that effort until about three of their probes were partially successful enough to prove that Venus was a hot and inhospital planet. Strangely, they have never had a fully successful mission to Mars before they went kaput!

On the other hand, we aimed most of our early shots at Mars, were quite successful, and basically won that aspect of the search for the origins of the UFOs. Your antecedents were lead to believe our so-called space race were simply scientific quests. It actually was a quest for dominance in the battle to meet ET.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:39 AM
link   
Excellent post SL

High enlightening.

I don't believe that these transmissions will work though for some odd reason..
We may not be able to pick up anything possibly due to us having technology that doesn't meet the criteria.

Oh well...let's hope we get some alieny transmissions!



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:53 AM
link   
The noise of radio transmissions only encompass a limited span of time in the tech maturation of an advanced civilization.

www.livescience.com...

We need to be thinking outside the box in our search for alien voices from outer space.

IMHO for a species to become far advanced they would have to become less aggressive and war-like. Lest they would have destroyed themselves with the advanced tech the had created.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:05 AM
link   
Actually we have been broadcasting since the 1930s. The 1936 Olympic Games spring to mind with a broadcast/speech by Hitler. Now that will be embarrasing to say the least if ET watches that. Hardly a sutable representive of humanity! What must they think of us. And not to mention all the tv transmissions/radar/other communications that have been broadcast into space as well.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:19 AM
link   

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Actually we have been broadcasting since the 1930s. The 1936 Olympic Games spring to mind with a broadcast/speech by Hitler. Now that will be embarrasing to say the least if ET watches that. Hardly a sutable representive of humanity! What must they think of us. And not to mention all the tv transmissions/radar/other communications that have been broadcast into space as well.


This is actually quite frightening thinking that all those 'B' sci-fi movies from the 50's and 60's, then as time goes on programs like Doctor Who for example, and episodes like 'V'. I personally am still on the fence with weather or not it will be good for us to make contact. Hawkins theory holds up quite well as in look what happened when cortez arrived in south america etc, but then as some one said earlier to be that advanced must mean they are peaceful to have avoided destroying themselves??? hmmmmm its a tuffy!



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:42 AM
link   

Originally posted by -W1LL
reply to post by AdamsMurmur
 



I was thinking along the same lines.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3179dae17df8.jpg[/atsimg]

binary decoded message




Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.Much PAIN But Still time.(unclear word).There is GOOD out there.We oppose DECEPTION.COnduit CLOSING


What I don't fully understand is how the 'Aliens' knew English? Also if they knew English why not just write the 'message' in English...?
edit on 27/3/11 by Versa because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 05:46 PM
link   

Originally posted by Aliensun
It was interesting and news to me to hear that the Soviets chose to send a message of Venus in November of 1962. That particular attempt, versus, for example, sending it to Mars, supports my contention that the Soviets were convinced that Venus was the home of the UFOs, and they wanted to be the first from Earth to signal "Hello."


Interesting claim. Where is any evidence for it, that I could go check independently, please?



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 06:11 PM
link   

Originally posted by Tinman67
IMHO for a species to become far advanced they would have to become less aggressive and war-like. Lest they would have destroyed themselves with the advanced tech the had created.


See I just don't see any truth to that assumption.

If you look at the human race, the opposite seems to be true. Look at Nazi Germany. The most advanced science and technology on the planet, and they tried to take over the world.

Right now we pretty much have the ability to destroy ourselves, yet we have not done so. Then look at the fact that our technology today is extremely advanced to what it was in the past. We still wage wars. But, because of the technology less lives are lost on the side of the technologically advanced.

Take drones for instance. They allow you to project your power and influence without the risk or loss of life. Aliens could have highly advanced technology that allows them to wage wars with the aliens themselves taken completely out of the equation. Other than drones, look at smart bombs. Much higher technology than old school bombs, yet their use actually reduces death and destruction because collateral damage (both lives and buildings, infrastructure, etc) is lower because of the increased ability to hit only the target. Think of an extremely high tech battle, where drones fight against drones, use smart bombs to only take out strategic targets without killing civilian aliens, and the whole battle or war is over much quicker. They might also use EMPs as weapons, to disable the enemy instead of destroying them.

Also, maybe the aliens inhabit several different planets. It would be much harder for them to destroy themselves if their population is a million times greater than ours, and spread out over a larger area.

I'd be willing to bet if there was an alien civilization out there far superior to humans in technological terms, they would be just as war-like as humans, if not more.

To think that any high tech civilization is instantly going to be benevolent is kind of silly. Even if an alien civilization got the the point where they no longer war amongst THEMSELVES, what makes you think they would extend that same courtesy to the human race? Maybe they would view us as so low and insignificant that destroying us would mean nothing to them.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 07:15 PM
link   
reply to post by Stop-loss!
 


You left out the strangest and most awkward one.


Poetica Vaginal


Later that decade, Davis led a quasi-covert operation that recorded the vaginal contractions of ballerinas with the Boston Ballet and other women, then translated this impetus of human conception into text, music, phonetic speech and ultimately into radio signals, which were beamed from M.I.T.'s Millstone radar to Epsilon Eridani, Tau Ceti and two other nearby star systems.

The Air Force soon found out about the million-watt Poetica Vaginal broadcast, as Davis calls it, and shut it down. But the 20-minute message was many times longer than the the first deliberate attempt to say hello to extraterrestrial ham radio operators, a string of 1,679 bits that Carl Sagan and Frank Drake beamed from the giant dish in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, 26 years ago. That message, like every engraved plaque and recorded video disk that NASA allowed on the Pioneer and Voyager space probes, made no attempt to convey what aliens would probably be most curious to know about humans: how we reproduce.

"The images of humans placed aboard the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft show impeccably groomed men that lack any facial and body hair," Davis hoots, "and women with no external genitalia." Poetica Vaginal was in part a response to this curious censorship. "By making this attempt to communicate with the other," he explains, "we're really communicating with ourselves."


www.thegatesofparadise.com...

biomediale.ncca-kaliningrad.ru...







 
10

log in

join