The Truth About Nibiru Finally Revealed Once And For All!!! Must Read!!!, page 3

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by MissSmartypants

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the majority of solar systems are binary systems, meaning most solar systems have two suns. That is the norm. Accept it. It would be very unusual for our own solar system to have only one sun....and it doesn't.

The majority of stars are single stars actually.

Common wisdom among astronomers holds that most star systems in the Milky Way are multiple, consisting of two or more stars in orbit around each other. Common wisdom is wrong. A new study by Charles Lada of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) demonstrates that most star systems are made up of single stars. Since planets probably are easier to form around single stars, planets also may be more common than previously suspected.

Astronomers have long known that massive, bright stars, including stars like the sun, are most often found to be in multiple star systems. This fact led to the notion that most stars in the universe are multiples. However, more recent studies targeted at low-mass stars have found that these fainter objects rarely occur in multiple systems. Astronomers have known for some time that such low-mass stars, also known as red dwarfs or M stars, are considerably more abundant in space than high-mass stars.
www.cfa.harvard.edu...

So before long chem trails will no longer be able to hide our second sun(one of the other posters said October) and it's existance will be undeniable, though I'm sure TPTB will certainly try to sugar coat it. So...there you go.

Odd, where I live I don't get any chemtrails at all and I also live in the souther hemisphere (33° longitude) and guess what?

Nothing!

YouTube Link

So according to your scientist(s), there are more low mass stars in the milky way than, high mass, I suppose? And these low mass stars seem to be living single and not in a binary system, according to your article. So, what is our star? Is it a low mass, red dwarf or is it larger and more likely to be a typical binary system?

Just wondering.

reply to post by SunnyDee

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Our sun is a yellow dwarf.

G2V to be exact.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by MissSmartypants

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really, and passes through all the asteroid belts every time, w out getting obliterated? If it has an orbit THAT elliptical, whats causing it? How is it not destroyed by now?

It's orbit is not on the same elliptical plane as the earth and all the other planets in out solar system so it probably was not created out of the same acretion disk surrounding our sun that we were. It is probably a captured object that became a part of our system when it approached too close and was captured by our systems gravitational pull.
And as far as it being destroyed by asteroids....remember it's huge and it's a sun,albeit a cool one, and it simply absorbs asteroids the same as our sun does when hit by comets and meteors and so forth.

reply to post by OldCorp

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And if it is coming in from the South polar eliptic,it wouldnt come anywhere near the asteroid belt....or any other planet or object in a normal eliptic orbit....something to ponder on

reply to post by MissSmartypants

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Relying on your own thread as a "source" is the weakest possible of all citations to authority.

Especially when that "source" is basically a conglomeration of misrepresented and misinformed YouTube fearmongers.

They are seeing it. In 1984 it was first detected by the IRAS satellite which detects infrared radiation but was quelched by the press and didn't really come back to the forefront until this whole 12/21/2012 thing started.

That's absolutely untrue. A hypothetical planet outside the Kuiper belt has been postulated for decades and the possibility examined at length. And proven false.

Why misrepresent imaginary "facts" that are easily disproved, and which have been the subject of many ATS threads?

And TPTB are doing their best to confuse the issue by telling us soon we'll see two suns in the sky when Beteguese goes supernova,

Only ATS fearmongers have claimed that a Betegeuse nova will be "soon," and that's either because they do not understand that "soon," in astronomical terms, can be millions of years, or becasue they play into the fear the future mode so popular among the incredulous and uneducated.

... of course this whole comet Elenin thing.....elenin standing for extinction level event nibiru is near.

Are you contending that the astronomer who discover this comet made his name up to fit some fantasy story? Do you even know where the name "Elenin" came from?

Leonid Elenin

IASC Astronomer (Backup Support)

Mr. Elenin is an amateur astronomer from Lubertsy City, Russia, located near Moscow. With a passion for astronomy since childhood, he studies minor objects in the Solar System and variable stars. He has discovered more than 10 variable stars and numerous asteroids. He works at the Keldysh Institute of Applied Mathematics (Russian Academy of Sciences).

International Astronomical Search Collaboration

And as far as it not existing in a cataclysmic capacity for earth, it's only truly destructive every 7200+ years, enough time for mankind to become complacent, as we have.

Unfortunately for the theory, even accepting this nonsense as true, it would be visible for several hundred years in the orbital cycle during perigee, and once it approached the distance of Saturn.

Why hasn't anyone published a telescopic image? Elenin, after all, was able to find and photograph a tiny comet-sized object well outside this range! Dozens of amateur astronomers have confirmed its presence and refined its orbit since his discovery was first published.

Where are the "Nibiru" amateur astronomers? Where are their images? Any amateur astronomer would covet the opportunity to lend his or her name to a "newly discovered" object or even to confirm or refine its orbit.

What is your source for the 7,200-year period of this orbit? What imaging system produced this information?

There is no objective evidence that supports your conclusions and assertions.

deny ignorance
jw

Originally posted by Homedawg
reply to post by OldCorp

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And if it is coming in from the South polar eliptic,it wouldnt come anywhere near the asteroid belt....or any other planet or object in a normal eliptic orbit....something to ponder on

edit on 3/26/2011 by Homedawg because: sp

Good point. I do believe from the charts I've seen on youtube and so forth that it really doesn't pass through the asteroid belt. But it does apparently jog comets from their orbit in the oort cloud and that's what causes a lot of the damages on the 3600 year pass it makes on our far side...when it's own gravitational and magnetic effects on our planet are not the main concerning factor. Of course this current pass is supposed to be the closer pass when it's gravitational and magnetic effects on our planet will be a concern as well as it's effects on the trajectories of near earth objects that are already a concern for us....now more so.

reply to post by allprowolfy

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What cleansing?

ALS

Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by MissSmartypants

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Relying on your own thread as a "source" is the weakest possible of all citations to authority.

Especially when that "source" is basically a conglomeration of misrepresented and misinformed YouTube fearmongers.

They are seeing it. In 1984 it was first detected by the IRAS satellite which detects infrared radiation but was quelched by the press and didn't really come back to the forefront until this whole 12/21/2012 thing started.

That's absolutely untrue. A hypothetical planet outside the Kuiper belt has been postulated for decades and the possibility examined at length. And proven false.

Why misrepresent imaginary "facts" that are easily disproved, and which have been the subject of many ATS threads?

And TPTB are doing their best to confuse the issue by telling us soon we'll see two suns in the sky when Beteguese goes supernova,

Only ATS fearmongers have claimed that a Betegeuse nova will be "soon," and that's either because they do not understand that "soon," in astronomical terms, can be millions of years, or becasue they play into the fear the future mode so popular among the incredulous and uneducated.

... of course this whole comet Elenin thing.....elenin standing for extinction level event nibiru is near.

Are you contending that the astronomer who discover this comet made his name up to fit some fantasy story? Do you even know where the name "Elenin" came from?

Leonid Elenin

IASC Astronomer (Backup Support)

Mr. Elenin is an amateur astronomer from Lubertsy City, Russia, located near Moscow. With a passion for astronomy since childhood, he studies minor objects in the Solar System and variable stars. He has discovered more than 10 variable stars and numerous asteroids. He works at the Keldysh Institute of Applied Mathematics (Russian Academy of Sciences).

International Astronomical Search Collaboration

And as far as it not existing in a cataclysmic capacity for earth, it's only truly destructive every 7200+ years, enough time for mankind to become complacent, as we have.

Unfortunately for the theory, even accepting this nonsense as true, it would be visible for several hundred years in the orbital cycle during perigee, and once it approached the distance of Saturn.

Why hasn't anyone published a telescopic image? Elenin, after all, was able to find and photograph a tiny comet-sized object well outside this range! Dozens of amateur astronomers have confirmed its presence and refined its orbit since his discovery was first published.

Where are the "Nibiru" amateur astronomers? Where are their images? Any amateur astronomer would covet the opportunity to lend his or her name to a "newly discovered" object or even to confirm or refine its orbit.

What is your source for the 7,200-year period of this orbit? What imaging system produced this information?

There is no objective evidence that supports your conclusions and assertions.

deny ignorance
jw

You've been a member of a conspiracy theory website since 2008. How hard would it be for TPTB to create or manipulate the existence of a Leonid Elenin. And on another thread I posted a recent photo of him. He's surprisingly young and attractive. So I'm quite sure he's real but I'm not naive enough not to know that his discovery could very well have been manipulated by TPTB just because of his last name.
For years now there has been available every conceivable type of image of Nibiru steadily growing closer and closer to us if one truly wanted to see them.

reply to post by Homedawg

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Okay that has nothing to do with this topic and that is not the actual video of the UFO shooting down the missle, it is a recreation. The original will never see the light of day. But I have no doubt the incident really happened and as I alluded to ...different subject all together.

Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by Homedawg

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Okay that has nothing to do with this topic and that is not the actual video of the UFO shooting down the missle, it is a recreation. The original will never see the light of day. But I have no doubt the incident really happened and as I alluded to ...different subject all together.

I know...I put that there simply to make a point about suppression of news,which is what I was posting about a few ago...off subject,yes...but apt,yes also...

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