US Army deserter readies for legal battle, faces tough odds , page 2
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reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 10:23 AM by aboutface
reply to post by jonnywhite


A guy that voluntarily joins is responsible for his choice. He should understand what he's signing up for.


Hmm, Just thinking of all the people who got married and said they knew what they were getting into...until the day they admitted they didn't. Just saying.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 10:50 AM by blackcube
Originally posted by aboutface
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post by jonnywhite


A guy that voluntarily joins is responsible for his choice. He should understand what he's signing up for.


Hmm, Just thinking of all the people who got married and said they knew what they were getting into...until the day they admitted they didn't. Just saying.


Very true. And in this case is worst because there isn't any tv, internet or information you could get that can make you fully understand what is to kill someone.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 11:07 AM by TrueBrit
reply to post by blackcube



I think its fair to say that in this case, it is not killing this gentleman objects to , but the amount of "collateral damage" (read : Lazy, and unskilled target selection at best, and at worst outright genocidal tendancies) that US commanders seem to think is acceptable. It is not killing that this gentleman objects to , but the legitimacy from a moral and legal point of view, of what his nation has asked of him. No... this man has no trouble with death, and spilling blood, he just rightly expects that a democratic nation would only order these things done, in more serious circumstances, for better reasons, and in a more moraly acceptable manner, with less civilian casualities, than they currently do. And hes absolutely right.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 11:43 AM by dl2one
He was misled from the start, thinking he was doing good, for the world even. Once the truth comes out, as he has seen first hand, he realized how immoral his role actually is. It's his perception, and opinion, lived on the front lines. Scared to die? I don't think he was so naive he didnt think he would die, after all, he joined the US Military. So that argument holds no water, or else he'd have been a Wal Mart greeter. Judge him all you want from the comfort of your borders and safe life. I don't know if I'd call someone a coward for pissing off the US military, that's pretty f*&@n ballsy don't you think?? It's not like the US gov't won't utilize many other acronym organizations to seek him out and destroy his character. Geez.

So here we have it again. But I ask you critics, what do you think of the some odd 6000 US military suicides every year? (though they nicely state the fact as only former personnel, sure and I'm an Irish Korean Muslim living in the deep southern US.) What say you of that fact admitted by the US Department of VA? All I can think is they had the same thoughts that every other deserter may have had...

I cannot live with the sh*t I have done with my own hands in the name of my country, I cannot be around my family and be called a hero for the crimes against humanity I have caused. I cannot desert the army because I will be LABELLED a coward.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 12:08 PM by TrueBrit
reply to post by Skippy1138



If the US are sending troops who havent had the panic slapped out of them, into battle, then the US military establishment should be dragged from thier homes and bayonetted to death on live television as a lesson to those who will come after them. Do the job properly people.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 04:38 PM by dwmjr1985
reply to post by Pervius



Some might argue that your uncle was probably drafted and forced into it. This guy is in a complete "volunteer" army.


reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 04:54 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by dwmjr1985



No need to put it in quotes. NO ONE is obligated to join the military.

It is ALL volunteer. But once you sign on that dotted line you have committed yourself to them for the amount of time of your contract. And you have a DUTY to honor that contract.


reply posted on 27-3-2011 @ 09:47 AM by Kryties
reply to post by projectvxn



Should that 'duty' require a death sentence if it is not fulfilled?

Jesus H Christ am I glad I live in Australia and not some backward-assed country that takes joy in executing people who don't happen to agree with them. Please spare me your bullcrap about "he signed up for it blah blah whinge blah" - if a man sees wrong he should be entitled to walk away from said wrong - FULL F@#KING STOP.
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