reply to post by polarwarrior
Not been proven that something is not true? This is called a logical fallacy. All things are false until proven true. Not true until proven false. The
common legal terminology is innocent until proven guilty. So right off the bat with your first statement you are no longer scientifically accurate.
I repeat because you refuse to listen. Just because it's in a book does not make it true or false. What does the data show? Earth has several systems
no directly linked to each other than affect each other from time to time but otherwise act independently of each other. In order for it to be alive,
these systems must be dynamically linked and cooperating to better the whole. When in fact these systems, though dynamic, often fight each other and
are in conflict with each other. Some examples include plate tectonics versus erosion, Solar radiation versus cloud generation systems. Even the
Earth's own gravity is in constant conflict with the moon, fighting to keep what is on the planet. As the old saying goes, don't judge a book by its
cover. Just because our small fraction of habitability on this world shows some complex systems, does not mean they are related nor does it mean the
same is true throughout.
Ah, spirituality. Well spirituality, I'm afraid, has not been proven. Thus your whole argument is flawed from the foundations. And no. You are your
body. There is no proof for the soul. There is no proof for God, for the soul, for an afterlife. And even if it was true, it's quite a cheap cop out
to just claim "oh its in another dimension". Nay sir. For the soul, if it exists, is neither real nor physical. Nor can it be observed, nor can it be
affected by this universe either than the choices it makes while interacting with this universe Even so, we can reduce this into its bare bones
scientific facts. We humans, alive, have an electromagnetic wave that creates our thoughts and stores our memories, generated by the cells in out
brain. These waves constantly change and adjust to adapt to what we learn and interact with. The Earth has the same wave. But it is neither responsive
nor changing, other than when taking a solar punch to the face. Mars is still KO from the last one, fyi. Thus even the most abstract thing that shows
us to be creative intelligent creatures is null for the Earth. Thus the Earth is not alive.
Gia, as you call it, is a primitive idea generated by uneducated minds who cannot bare to view a dead universe devoid of care for your collection of
molecules. I'm afraid the truth hurts. The Earth could be smothered in a brown dwarf's plasmic cloud tomorrow and your lot wouldn't matter a bit. Gia,
as you call it, would come out as cosmic dust, to be eaten by her cannibalistic life giver, the sun. She would be gobbled up, turned to nuclear fuel
for the fires of her uncaring life giver, and return to the ashes from whence she came. Much like yourself in a few decades time.
You see I am going to reveal to you why God or the soul will never be proven to exist. Observation. What can be observed, can be affected. What can be
affected, can be destroyed. If the soul can be observed, it can be affected, and by proxy, destroyed. Thus nullifying the purpose of its existence. So
thus you are left with an uncaring universe, a baseless claim without proof, nor proof that will ever be found, and a human race that could hardly
care for fairies and tree spirits. It just wants food. And when this planet is done, the humans will go find another food source. In as much as we now
know the Earth is nothing special, the species is all the more emboldened in faith that their actions really don't matter in the end. If we screw up
here, we all get into a space ship and run away, leaving poor mother Earth to fall into the sun and be destroyed.
Pity the universe is. Maybe your faith ought to be towards more permanent things. Even God says the world will end, and most other religions
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