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reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 01:59 PM by Canadianpride420

reply to post by Nephalim

Did you ever think that maybe ghaddafi was right...I'm not saying he is because no one knows 100% without being there..but to me the reason why I believe this whole thing is set up is because as soon as ghaddafi had the rebels in his mercy(chased them back to benghazi and had the city surrounded) that is when the no fly zone took place..They took their sweet old time talking about it while the rebels were making progress then all of a sudden when they look likethey are about to be defeated, that's when the international community stepped in..Now based on their track records I have a hard time believing that they did it to "protect innocent civiliians." If this was the case then why has no one stepped in to the ivory coast, where the violence is surprisingly worse...of course there isn't any oil there and they already have a central bank

reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 02:17 PM by Nephalim

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Oh I get it, really do. However, Lybia doesnt have the best track record itself, many of the nations in the middle east dont do they? Heck look at the whole of the eastern hemisphere. They arent exactly timid little rabbits either, Lets look at that too. For us to instantly blame the US because of its track record ( past administrations) would be a totally one sided perspective. Look at the bombings we committed to several years ago when Clinton was in office, had it not been for Blair, we wouldnt have done anything at all. Im just saying this here my fellow ats'er, that for tons of people who do not trust the news sites or governments, people sure do choose a side quick based on a few articles from all of the very same sources and outlets that they scrutinize on a daily basis. Some one pointed that out very clearly the other day.

So while I always appreciate the ground basis for many views here, it seems everyone always wants the best (most do anyway) I cant suggest jumping on NWO bandwagons, anti US talk from the usual suspects nor people who think they are right because they read it somewhere. Media, is media, is media and that business in and of itself has a record that is just as slimey as any country or government in any hemisphere has.

reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 02:51 PM by Nephalim

Secondly, who else has interests in Africa? Can you write a list? Surely anyone here would agree that if any nation on earth has had everyone's hands in its soil, its Africa. As a continent it has been exploited, and continues to be exploited more by the day.

I can sit here all day long like some do, painting pictures of mass murder, genocide, factionism, exploitation, national interests, global ignorance, some global elite, follow the money trails and whatever else. Anyone could, for instance, I saw China's fully armed warship waltz right on into the strait who has a major interest in what the US does and pick up its people then leave unscaved with western nations forces basically surrounding it. China! The nation that holds a very large cache of US securities and currency.

Who here mentioned that China might have some interest there? Look at some of their operations; do you really think they are out there promoting peace? What about Russia? Russia? Has been doing business with Lybia for years and years and years my friend. They all have their pockets in Africa, no one cares who rules that small country called "Lybia", they care about access to business there and access to their own interests.

Your own beloved Canada sent jets, think about why? Did Lybia hurt Canada? How? What interest does Canada have in contributing to regime change possibly?

See my point? They arent lying to you or me when they say the global economy is the global economy my friend. It is literally a global economy. I suffer, you suffer. Just because a few countries dont send jets, doesnt mean they dont profit, it doesnt mean they dont support it, let alone see the good in instability, especially when it crashes market and screws with their pockets. Russia and China can both kiss my American wazoo, they are just as damn guilty as the "coalition" and benefit by denouncing any military action there while countries like mine and yours catch the heat.

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reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 06:58 PM by JerryB08

The president of Chad has stated and a representative in Niger confirmed Al Qeada has broken into Libyan armories and stolen SAM 7 Missiles launchers. One of those could easily take down a Commercial Jet on take off. It's very obvious the news outlets are only leaking what they want us to know and they definite are slimy and frankly should not be allowed to be journalists..But then we'd know nothing and have nothing to talk about.

reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 07:20 PM by lifttheveil

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reply posted on 26-3-2011 @ 10:21 PM by GovtFlu

Originally posted by MrWendal
Wow what a shock... those "crazy conspiracy theorist" were right again!

2nd verse same as the first

New boss same as the old boss.
Business as usual.
Same stuff different day
Told ya so
No stuff Sherlock
Beating a dead horse

..lol.. this "news" is cliche heaven... of course!!.. it rains gold on terrorists who serve an oligarch purpose, it rains missiles on those who don't... just as the founding fathers intended..lol..

I'm pretty sure the strange rumbling noises people are hearing are the founding fathers spinning in their graves.

reply posted on 25-4-2011 @ 09:34 PM by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Nephalim

Originally posted by JerryB08
We are supporting the same terrorists that we are at war with in Afghanistan and Iraq by arming them and enforcing a NO FLY zone. Their announced leader is a terrorist that we in Pakistan in 2002 and was held until 2008. THE US AND UK KNEW THIS!!! I can't believe it. AL QAEDA is behind the unrest in all these Arab countries.

Qaddafi was telling the truth!!!!!!!!

www.telegraph.co.uk...

How does this article add to any objective consideration? is the decision already made that this was staged? How do you folks know, this article wasn't written so you'd think as you do? Seems so because all I'm seeing is final judgements based on a UK article with no objection to it at all.

Think about this: If those rebels were actually involved with the CIA, do you really think they would have lost control of those cities? Do you really? If so people are naive. If you can do these things in a quieter, easier, less expensive way... you'd do it, you would not involve the world militaries and youd have a lot better outcome with continuous and covert intel on the ground, leading this movement instead of getting yourselves and all of the rebels killed in a losing battle.

Just something to think about.
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Excellent points. And you're right, they have pre-determined their conclusions based on their politics. There is a clear and obvious concerted effort out there from the 'Right" to discount the entire uprising in every country int he mideast as being the workings of the Left.

Which is interesting, since if there was a popular uprising in the states from the various right-wing factions who fantasize about such actions, they would not like to be immediately dismissed as 'terrorists' or 'al queda in America'.