Indiana prosecutor told Wisconsin governor to stage 'false flag' operation

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


This Indiana (my home state) prosecutor is an IDIOT. Basic reason will tell you that the most insecure communication media around is an email. Yet, here he sends out an email to encourage the commiting of a crime. And, this guy is a prsecutor? Let me repeat: I D I O T

Is this grounds for collusion to commit treason? At any rate I am not surprised people who gain positions of power rarely do so with the interests of their constituents in mind it is an ego trip and the ego being a false construct brings with it the fuzzy ethics we see demonstrated here.

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

This Indiana (my home state) prosecutor is an IDIOT. Basic reason will tell you that the most insecure communication media around is an email. Yet, here he sends out an email to encourage the commiting of a crime. And, this guy is a prsecutor? Let me repeat: I D I O T

Yeah it really is incredible this guy is that dumb. I tell people all the time that the problem with Email is you might delete it but your Internet Service Provider still keeps a copy in perpituity.

Even here on ATS posts and threads that are removed are thrown into a staff only area of the site to be referred to again at a later date if need be.

I myself am still using carrier pidgeons and a dick tracy code watch.

Go figure.

Thanks for joining in my friend.

Originally posted by Shirak
Is this grounds for collusion to commit treason? At any rate I am not surprised people who gain positions of power rarely do so with the interests of their constituents in mind it is an ego trip and the ego being a false construct brings with it the fuzzy ethics we see demonstrated here.

It's also a lot about money and friends with money who help these people get elected.

They are also the people who once they help get someone elected tend to suggest who they appoint to appointee positions like this prosecutor as a favor for the support and help they got from them in being elected.

Most of the legislation is actually written by the corporations lawyers and passed off through lobbyists to the actual legislators.

They just introduce it through committee tweak it for the corporate lobbyists of the other influential politicians on the committee and then ram it through for a vote.

The whole process is one dominated by lawyers and corporations and lawyers who become politicians who usually first worked for the same corporations.

It's a very messed up system, really it is.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


"...attaching more and more civil and criminal penalties for failure to live your life the way government exceedingly seeks to micro-manage it..."

Amen to that, brother. How are we free when we are forced to spend our time and money as a government dictates to us?

Mandatory insurances (sold to us by FOR-profit corporations)
Liscences (sp?)
Fees
Fines
Taxes on income
Taxes on purchases
Taxes on manufacturing
Taxes on your own "property"

That is, of course, unless you can afford attorneys to find you loopholes and write-offs.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Right, I prefer my Little Orphan Anne decoder ring for really secure communication. Ya know the three least secure forms of communication after email are :

telephone
telegraph
tellawoman

veritas vos liberabit

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Right, I prefer my Little Orphan Anne decoder ring for really secure communication. Ya know the three least secure forms of communication after email are :

telephone
telegraph
tellawoman

veritas vos liberabit

Fortunately women learned the hard way to stop listening to me a long time ago, my secrets are safe, no one knows them but me and my face book page!

Originally posted by bricmpt
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

"...attaching more and more civil and criminal penalties for failure to live your life the way government exceedingly seeks to micro-manage it..."

Amen to that, brother. How are we free when we are forced to spend our time and money as a government dictates to us?

Mandatory insurances (sold to us by FOR-profit corporations)
Liscences (sp?)
Fees
Fines
Taxes on income
Taxes on purchases
Taxes on manufacturing
Taxes on your own "property"

That is, of course, unless you can afford attorneys to find you loopholes and write-offs.

I have done a lot of studying on the law, and there is a lot of great information on the law here on ATS.

I would never hire an attorney, and I have beaten up a couple pretty badly with the things that I know about the law.

Oddly enough some of those things were the very things skeptics here on ATS swear up and down aren't true and they would never risk taking a chance on.

We are basically constantly being frightened and intimidated through the force of the law and the enormity of the system to abandon defending ourselves and standing up for ourselves.

I don't advise it personally.

I say give them what for.

Great post friend, thanks for joining in.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I'm no fan of the "modern" union.

But.

this is wrong. If you want to fight, fight clean or it WILL bite your ass. This idiot telling the gov to "false flag" himself was a fool to put it in ANY written form.

Looks like Divine Providence has circumvented mans foolishness once again.

If the gov had really wanted to play hardball, the asshats that trashed the capital building could have been nailed for a number of offences. No idea why he didnt. I would have! Let the bastards whine!

I'm a crotchety 40 something guy and dont care to take shiznit off of punks that think I "owe them". Most of them have hardly ever had a "real" job. I pray that most havent whizzed in the gene pool as well.

This idiot is a case in point.





But, I digress.

I've no use for miscreants and even less use for socialists/marxists/communists. Had I the power to do so, future they would all be stillborn...as would "predatory" capitalists.

reply to post by felonius


But can you tell us how you really feel without beating around the bush and all the flowery euphanisms!

As a self employed person in business for himself, who would rather turn away business than be saddled with an employee, I have learned the hardway over the years it's no walk in the park being an employer any more than it is being an employee.

I am a firm believer that the only person who is going to pay you what you are truly worth is yourself.

I like being in business for myself, I get to be the hero when ever I want to by helping people who can't always afford to pay, or need some time too.

I also know no one can keep me from succeeding but myself, and that ultimately the best person to learn to rely on and trust is myself.

Not everyone is cut out for that though, has the acumen, or the discipline or the initiative.

With the corporations so aggressively looking through mergers and acquisitions to dominate markets and create monopolies, it's hard to be an independent business person, but the people in my humble opinion who work in the rank and file of these huge multi-national enterprises really do deserve to make a decent wage when in the employ of companies making billions.

It's not pretty and it's not always done right, but the only thing that I have ever seen even the playing field for the little workers is the Unions, do some people take advantage of that, no doubt.

Until we can create a more considered system I think something has to exist to collectively counter the corporations and the governments.

Unions might be about the only thing there really is for that.

Our government is a joke.

Originally posted by Ucabearbone
Our government is a joke.

A rather bad, costly, deadly and seriously embarassing joke.

One that brings a lot more tears and sorrow than laughter and joy.

I wonder when many of them sit back when all this is done and what they have wrought has been truly realized if they are themselves even going to think it was wise to do the things that they have.

I think in the end the joke is going to be on the people doing all this.

reply to post by felonius


I agree with you. We all have different goals, in fact, I'm more of a green myself, but I also believe in gun ownership and fair trade (not free trade). We have to agree to a fair, honest discourse with mutual respect for each others' differences. Backroom deals, underhanded tactics; this crap doesn't help anybody and just furthers the distrust between government and the people. The government is supposed to be representative - it is supposed to be by us and for us. It's clearly not composed of people like you and me, real people living real, hardworking lives - and they are certainly not working for us. If politicians acted like statesmen again, we'd all be better off. This is all just a game to them.

reply to post by OhioPariah


One of the problems with Government that most people don't get, is it's a business. A business that supports the corporations and helps them, a business that doesn't have to turn a profit because it forces us to subsidize it, a business that is in about 154 nations, and a business that actually some other nations are secretly incorporated under.

Like any business the Government has a business plan and thats to keep expanding, keep growing, until it controls and dominates everyone and everything.

They sell government mostly on the fear of what life would be like without government, but you know it might not actually be as bad as life under government.

sounds like the email was part of the false flag. all part of the plan, to give the impression that these guys are
in disagreement on just about everything but in the end, nothing changes, only gets more intrusive, more demanding, from what you eat, to what type of lightbulbs you have, what you put in your body, what you think or don't think. it's all a big farce from the looks of it. don't see how people can look at this situation and not recognize it for what it is.

Originally posted by felonius
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

If the gov had really wanted to play hardball, the asshats that trashed the capital building could have been nailed for a number of offences. No idea why he didnt. I would have! Let the bastards whine!

Sorry bud, but the Capitol building was actually being taken very well care of by the protesters. The figure given of 7 some million dollars for restoration was the amount of money it would cost to restore the building to 2001 standards (right after it was completely renovated) The only issue was paint damage (no damage was done to the marble from signs as they were taped up using painters tape) and a local painters union offered to restore it for free.

Originally posted by OhioPariah
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I agree with you. We all have different goals, in fact, I'm more of a green myself, but I also believe in gun ownership and fair trade (not free trade). We have to agree to a fair, honest discourse with mutual respect for each others' differences. Backroom deals, underhanded tactics; this crap doesn't help anybody and just furthers the distrust between government and the people. The government is supposed to be representative - it is supposed to be by us and for us. It's clearly not composed of people like you and me, real people living real, hardworking lives - and they are certainly not working for us. If politicians acted like statesmen again, we'd all be better off. This is all just a game to them.

edit on 25-3-2011 by OhioPariah because: (no reason given)

it's humanly impossible to have an honest government. true transparency would destroy the country faster than any weapon or revolution could ever do. same for all the other countries on the planet. if they were "like us," they couldn't lead. true story. other countries would eat them alive. also a true story. the only way governments stay in power is to be just as dishonest (or moreso) as the next government across the pond. it comes with the job territory.

Originally posted by OhioPariah
What are the ramifications of this? Why is he allowed to simply resign - he should be on trial for treason, or subversion, or, well, I'm not a lawyer. There must be a legal recourse to these politicians who would even suggest such a tactic. Instead they fall on their feet and end up in a think-tank when they should be in solitary.

It'll be pushed under the rug. I bet top dollar that this will not reach the top media outlets.

The NWO should out this guy for just being a moron.
A good ol skonny scalping will do though.2nd line

Democracy can only flourish when citizens trust their elected leaders. Trust is built upon integrity, good character, and transparency. When the Nixon administration engaged in the coverup, when dirty tricks become standard political actions, when Ollie North was proud of lying to Congress over Reagan's IranContra affair, when the GOP encouraged "stealth" candidates 20 years ago, when the public watched the Florida GOP "Brooks Brothers Riot", when we have current GOP leaders encouraged to fake assaults to gain sympathy for "their" side, it is then that democracy becomes dysfunctional.

For decades I have watched as citizen trust in govt has waned, and those who voted were merely used by politicians who then gained access to power to benefit themselves and their cronies. Grass roots was supplanted by astroturf. Corporations wielded ever increasing influence over politicians, until their foothold in govt was secured, and citizens became unwitting pawns in support of corporate power.

Despite Walker's next to Godliness claim, he and his political cronies (such as this Mr. Lam) are no more than the current crop of rotten fruit that a corrupted, dysfunctional tree of liberty produces.