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reply posted on 10-8-2004 @ 09:23 PM by SOTERION 5
Originally posted by Amadeus
Hey Codemaster:

How much Paleo Hebrew do you know? How much Galilean Aramaic? How much Koine 1st century Greek?

And if you cannot read the "bible" in the original and form an opinion about the manuscript traditions in that "book" then how can you believe it.

or as they say, "Don't automatically believe everything you cannot read!"

'Nuff said.

If you are one of those pathetic American-English-only speaking fundamentalists who cannot read the Bible (but "believe every word" !) and who didn't even know R. Yehoshua bar Yosef was even a jewish Rabbi executed for armed sedition against Rome, then maybe you better go back to school and start over...

There's a bigger world out there, my friend. I suggest you get out a little more.

Just a thought, is all.






My, My, How do you ever find a hat to fit your head?

You may think that all your education makes you someone worthy of an ignorant Christian's attention but...as Paul says... "For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but their thinking (dialogue, gk-dialogismos) became empty and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise (by their philosophies, gk-sophos), they became fools..."


You see, God never chose everyone. If one doesn't have the receiver then God's wisdom cannot be transmitted. Some say God wants everyone, they quote, "whosoever will may come", but it is God who acts on the willer.

Eph 1:4 Eklegomai- chose out from among those not chosen, by speaking, for Himself.

Yes there is a big world out there but it is very, very, limited!! The understanding of humanity is just a drop in the ocean compared to the knowledge we'll have when..'we awake in His image.' You see, you cannot even come close to teaching me anything about God or His Son, you are not a Domita of God's word.


reply posted on 11-8-2004 @ 12:35 AM by SomewhereinBetween
Was he a rabbi?

Originally posted by Amadeus
Hey Codemaster:

If you are one of those pathetic American-English-only speaking fundamentalists who cannot read the Bible (but "believe every word" !) [color=red]and who didn't even know R. Yehoshua bar Yosef was even a jewish Rabbi[/color] executed for armed sedition against Rome, then maybe you better go back to school and start over...

There's a bigger world out there, my friend. I suggest you get out a little more.

Just a thought, is all.


Or was he not a Rabbi?

posted on 8/6/04 at 03:15 AM Post Number: 709866
Hi there SomeWhere In Between...

YOU WROTE:

QUOTE (Somewhereinbetween): Amadeus asks whether Jesus was considered a Rabbi during his life, and yes he was, John 1:38 is one example, although it appears that along with teacher, it was also taken to mean, my master or my lord. He wonders if Jesus held two wives simultaneously, the answer to which is no, since Miriam left him a widower, prior to his resurfacing at age 30. UNQUOTE


Be careful of stating your opinions as fact without documentary backup of any kind...

[color=red]The Greek we read today in the 4th (John's) Gospel, for example, was written down sometime AFTER AD 100, so it was 30 YEARS AFTER the Destuction of the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem when the Saduccean priests were killed off, and the term RABBI was more popular since they filled the power vaccum (a process which has extended Rabinnic (i.e. non sacrificial non-Torah abiding) Judaism to this day)

My question was actually whether or not the term RABBI/RABBONI was a RETROJECTION of a LATER TERM into an earlier narrative when the gospels circulated AFTER the destruction of the 2nd Temple in Jerusalem by the Romans in AD 70.[/color]

Let me know your SOURCE for a pre 70 usage of the term Rabbi, if you happen to have come across on in the literature.

I do not know of any confirmed written documentary sources for the specific use of this specific term RABBI before AD 70 (i.e. 35-40 years after the execution of R. Yehoshua for armed rebelllion against Rome) and the earliest Gospels circulated around AD 75-80 (e.g. Mark) and the so called Gospel of John the Elder (whoever he was) did not hit the streets until about AD 110, so cannot be used as evidence of an early use of the term, RABBI.
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