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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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It is going to take me awhile to get back to you again. I may be indisposed for awhile. Back soon.




posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Should you be concerned?
I don't know.

You are always ready for a fishing lesson?
Well then let me say that you have just skipped one.
("I don't know what to say to your question here.")

Am I French?
Not really.

The good thing about the old ways is that they are international AND multidimensional.

Let me give you an example.
I once witnessed 2 electricians - one from Italy and one from Germany - who didn't speak the other ones language - perform an very huge installation in a museum - I was trying to interpret for them in English - what wouldn't really work.

After some frustrating and expensive time they switched to those electrical symbols - and began to TALK "ELECTRIC" - that was an enlightening experience. The Installation was put up in 2 days and everybody was happy.
Thats EXACTLY how all Mastership works - if you KNOW your stuff.

There is NO "uphill" battle - no disadvantage for you because I don`t expect you to speak my language.

It would be better if you quit playing around and cut the whining.


Thank you for your time

C
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that Frater.

My above post was made before I did read that and the quitting and cutting and playing and whining part did only refer to your afore made post.

I hope you will be well soon.

C
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:00 PM
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I've pretty much read the entire thing, save a chapter or 2 worth of quotes.

I'm very intrigued by this.
The whole idea of it is enough to make you wet yourself!
and that is part of step 1!

Thanks for sharing, I'll be keeping a very close eye on this subject from now on.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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i didnt say the stone would enlight anyone. But think about it the stone can heal the body and extend lifespan. Each people will react differently. In my case i think it would indirectly help me to evolve faster. If you think i would keep doing lambda stuff and fall into flesh and depravity you are wrong. I think i have a good guess what is useful and healthy for survival and inner growth and what must be removed and unlearned. "Non attachment non disinterest" im sure it is the best way of thinking for long term survival, self control and most of all: sanity.

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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Cool read if you like scifi, and fairy tales. There is a few key concepts the writer himself steps over and infact contradicts himself. He/She claims the stone is made only out of one substance, and backs it up with quotes, however then he states about mixing water, gold, and silver into the mix. That is no longer one substance, which begs the question, "what the heck?".

Summary: secret ingredient is urine.

Urine is an aqueous solution of greater than 95% water, with the remaining constituents, in order of decreasing concentration urea 9.3 g/L, chloride 1.87 g/L, sodium 1.17 g/L, potassium 0.750 g/L, creatinine 0.670 g/L and other dissolved ions, inorganic and organic compounds.

Wikipedia

So a bunch of chemicals, great, also ammonia is created by the breakdown of urea. Anyways...he/she says the stone is made up of life energy. So somehow heating urine in a flask for 3 years will create a substance containing enough energy to do anything...

Physics Lesson 101:

Since Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, even if the urine (writer claims) contains life energy or chi or whatnot, 1 litre of urine will contain the same amount of it today as it will in 3 years.

If that was not the case then the equation wouldn't be balanced, that would mean 1=10 , where did the other 9 go?
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Another paradox to add...writer says the substance mixed with anything makes more of itself since it breaks down the other substances and just further mixes it with its own structure. If that was true then that means as soon as you ingested it you would die, because the the tissue that would touch this substance would breakdown. Great. Another fallacy is that the substance would mix with the air and do the same thing right, I mean if it mixes with water why not the air? Sounds to me like the antimatter explosion in Dan browns book, just a bunch of hot air.

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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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He/She claims the stone is made only out of one substance, and backs it up with quotes, however then he states about mixing water, gold, and silver into the mix. That is no longer one substance, which begs the question, "what the heck?".


The gold and silver is added at the end as a ferment, so it could be claimed that the Stone is made from 2 (or 3) substances, or it could be claimed to be 1. Either way, it doesn't really matter. The ferment is considered to be only for stabilizing the Stone, and not really an "ingredient" as such, which is why the alchemists all claim it is made from one thing alone.


Since Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, even if the urine (writer claims) contains life energy or chi or whatnot, 1 litre of urine will contain the same amount of it today as it will in 3 years.


Matter contains a lot of energy, but it is already in a stable form, which is why we can't just turn any matter into energy. The process of making the Stone breaks the matter down into energy, then traps it somehow with the stable form of the ferment (silver or gold).


Another paradox to add...writer says the substance mixed with anything makes more of itself since it breaks down the other substances and just further mixes it with its own structure. If that was true then that means as soon as you ingested it you would die, because the the tissue that would touch this substance would breakdown. Great. Another fallacy is that the substance would mix with the air and do the same thing right, I mean if it mixes with water why not the air? Sounds to me like the antimatter explosion in Dan browns book, just a bunch of hot air.


Not anything, just everything it overpowers. That is said in the context of projecting the Stone onto molten silver or gold. It has to penetrate into the substance and overpower it. Concerning air, yes the Stone would over time transmute the air surrounding it into more Stone, but this would be very slow and unnoticeable.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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This is the end of my time of ATS.

I've managed to convince Forgotten Books to give me some hosting space. Over the last couple of days I've created an online editable (for select users) version of the book, which is automatically rendered into PDF. So far I haven't updated the book with any of your questions here, but I will do.

If any of you wish to ask anymore questions, there is a forum also on the new site. I will expand the book with any good questions asked in a new FAQ appendix. All other chapters will be updated too, as I did rush the original.

Thank you for all your feedback, it has been very valuable.

Good luck with your Stones, and I hope I will see you on the other forum.

bookofaquarius.forgottenbooks.org...



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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Wanted to leave a couple of more replies before I bail out as well. LastDragon, sorry to get all 'quoty' on you but check this out...

For of this composition, combining as it does the virtues of all things, there may truly be said that in one drop the whole world is present.
Man, the Best and Most Perfect of God's Creatures by Benedictus Figulus, 1607 AD

If you really think about this quote and what our Anon offers as the First Matter this will begin to make sense to you. By the way the quote comes right out of The Book of Aquarius.
Hope to see you at the forgotten books thread.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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It's Ok, I am fine. Just had to attend to the demands of cupid.
I went back and re-read our posts to try and find your fishing lesson. You are right, I seem to be too dull to see it. The only thing I seem to be able to derive from it is that you may be trying to say something about Hell; I don't know. Sorry.
I also get the impression that you would like to communicate symbolically. I thought that we were. You have missed at least two of my green puns; I am sure I am missing your meaning as well.
So here is one more symbol for you. Take it or leave it.


You seem like a nice person. I am absolutely sure you and I could have fun together. But I think that you misunderstand the times that you are living in. The problem with the old ways is that they are the old ways. The time of old ways is over. All is being revealed. If you are going to get precious about your old ways than you will have the opportunity to see them revealed and carried off to reside within the bosom of 'The Profane' where they belong. Anyhow, to put it shortly your secrets will become worthless because everyone is going to have them. As you can see there are people taking care of this as we speak.
Another way of saying it is that all of this cloak and dagger, Holy Blood, Holy Grail crap is out of Fashion. And you know what Heidi Klum says about fashion? 'You are either in, Or you are out!'. All hooded mystics carrying around proprietary Occult Secrets should pay heed to this. Fashion is everything.
And yes, I will quit whining now. Bye thread, you have all been great.
And by the way, if you are going to go on again about how you offered nothing. Don't. I get that you did not offer it to Damon or I. But you did come on a public thread claiming to have a secret and then you offered it to only Sign00. OK. But how does that make sense in light of what Sign00 has done? We can all just go participate in facilitating the Stone now and when it is finished it will make your picture book about as useful as the Sunday morning comics. à tout à l'heure.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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And this for anyone still lurking about... It is really hard to come up with real questions about Alchemy when given the opportunity, isn't it? I thought I had enough exposure and experience to formulate meaningful questions but I have just learned that I do not. In the face of what appears to be a true revelation my questions have all gone mute. So it is back to studying for me. I bet the same for many of you, Huh?
I know there are many like myself who are learners and are trying to make sense of what just went down here.
So I feel compelled to add to this thread 'The Riddle of The Sphinx' or what is sometimes referred to as 'The Powers of The Sphinx'... From the conclusion of Fulcanelli's Mysteries of the Cathedrals... I have re-written them a little to reflect the new paradigm...

By constant exercise of the faculties of observation and reasoning and by meditation, the novice will climb the steps leading to KNOWLEDGE

A simple imitation of natural processes, skill combined with ingenuity, the insight born of sudden realization will secure for him the POWER

Having obtained that, he will still have need of patience, constancy, an account at the local Lab Supply outlet, and the ability to check on his Stone at least every other week. Brave and resolute, he will be enabled by the certainty and confidence born of a strong faith to DARE

Finally, when success has crowned so many months or so of hard labour, when his or her desires have become accomplished, The Wise Man (or Woman), despising the vanities of the world will draw near to the humble, the disinherited, to all those who suffer, struggle and weep here below. As an Anonymous and vociferous disciple of eternal Nature, an Apostle of Eternal Charity, he will remain faithful to his vow of serving mankind.
In Science, in goodness, The Adept must ever-more SHARE THE GOODS. (Normally this says KEEP SILENT but I have changed it. I know that Fulcanelli and crew will understand).

Best of Luck to Everyone...
Oh and, You guys seriously need to overhaul your faith in humanity. Given the Stone folks will do the right thing. I just know this. So I guess it is a matter of opinion. I think the few Black Brothers that would do something bad with it would stick out like sore thumbs and would be dealt with accordingly. I don't know I just see it very differently. Have a good one. See you on the UFO threads.



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P.S. I realized that I should go ahead and break this down for anyone interested.

The Sphinx.
To KNOW: The head of Man ( Aquarius)


To WILL: The haunches of the Bull, (Taurus)


To DARE: The Claws of the Lion (Leo)


To SHARE THE GOODS (previously To KEEP SILENT): It used to be The Wings of The Eagle but I am going to replace the Eagle with...


Yes... Foghorn Leghorn. (Scorpio)
So there you have the New Powers of The Sphinx.
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Hey _damon...

...seems that there goes another one.

Did you even care to READ my last post to you - with your bodily eyes and all your claimed "esprit"?
I don't think so - but to me that doesn't really matter.

Our opinion about the concerned Stone and it's abilities I have shared often in this thread.
What you THINK the Stone might do for you is not of any concern.

It's NOT about survival - there sign00 is right - death is only a stage.
Like many others.

I couldn't care less if you choose to "fall into flesh and depravity".
That's your business.

Nevertheless I'm sending to you something right now.

Since I'm still not able to answer your U2U in the proper way - I will do it here.
I would prefer if you keep talking English - consider it a part of the process.


Be well

C



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Oh - seems I just missed you Frater!

Since you are gone now you will not read this anymore - no?
But you're ok Frater - that´s all that matters!

Concerning hell - the devil is in the details.
You don't seem to care about them a lot.

Just like sign00 - that is why I came here in the first place.
I saw some flaws in his textbook and offered him help.

Maybe you will think about some flaws too - if you carry on - in a few years.

How crazy is that?
To claim that you have solved cold fusion - and MORE - WITHOUT even a WORKING model?
That has been done MANY times before - but here it is done with grandezza.
So - chapeau!

sign00 is cool - very - but that's all.
Maybe this serves for the cold fusion part - for him it does surprisingly well.
But he has done nothing so far - besides offering a hypothesis and letting you have a look in his lab.

And about the old ways - what could you probably have against them - because you try to reach THEIR aim.
Ignorance is not the proper tool to get anywhere - and it is not even a new one.

As educated as you are Frater - I'm sure that you know something about secret handshakes and stuff.

See - when I said to sign00 that we had decided "to cut him off" - that was not a withdrawal.
It was to make sure if he knows his stuff.
He doesn't.
But he thinks so.
Sad.
For you too.


Stay ok

C



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by HiroProtagonist
I skipped to the part on how to make the stone and stopped reading as soon as I seen the main ingrediant is urine! Good luck with your stones guys...


Urine is a logical ingredient. White Stone.

Urine Link



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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tell me... what makes you so sure you survive after death? Im curious really. I have always found the people that blindly believe in the afterlife because of their own fears of death "fascinating". If you are happy with becoming part of an ocean of energy and lose your consciousness and your individuality, your goals after death good for you but NOT for me. I want to survive. To think you need your flesh body to die to evolve further is nonsense.

I think it is you who didnt read me but whatever.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 04:51 PM
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While you are exploring Forgotten Books, how about this one? St. Germain's "Most Holy Trinosophia", since you are into alchemy and he was famous for it.

www.forgottenbooks.org...

And while you are waiting the three years for your stone to develop, go outside in the fresh air and sunlight and breathe in the prana available to you right now.


www.arizonaenergy.org...

yogaforthenewworld.blogspot.com...
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posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Hi _damon.

This is a main subject.
If you are looking for an answer - search for it - in the first place without bothering others.
If you read through some posts I made on ATS (still under 20 - sigh!) you might have gathered an answer already.
Everyone can do that.
And if you want to elaborate on what you found after your research - than this can be done.
Show some initiative - for your own sake.

I read very meticulously whatever you write - but I'm not sure if I want to read you - and if it's worth the effort.
Until now you didn't much to motivate me on that - except whining.
That's not useful for anyone.


Come on

C



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by _damon
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tell me... what makes you so sure you survive after death? Im curious really. I have always found the people that blindly believe in the afterlife because of their own fears of death "fascinating". If you are happy with becoming part of an ocean of energy and lose your consciousness and your individuality, your goals after death good for you but NOT for me. I want to survive. To think you need your flesh body to die to evolve further is nonsense.

I think it is you who didnt read me but whatever.


Why would you think you would lose your consciousness and individuality? I believe when you die all will be revealed to you, including your past incarnations....how else would you learn?



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Why would you think you would lose your consciousness and individuality? I believe when you die all will be revealed to you, including your past incarnations....how else would you learn?


Your memories and experiences are what make you who you are. To suddenly have x number of other lives crammed into your head would make the result, in my opinion... no longer you.



posted on Mar, 29 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Snap


Why would you think you would lose your consciousness and individuality? I believe when you die all will be revealed to you, including your past incarnations....how else would you learn?


Your memories and experiences are what make you who you are. To suddenly have x number of other lives crammed into your head would make the result, in my opinion... no longer you.


nah, its still you... just more of an overall picture.






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