It is their own ignorance [the sceptics] that prevents them from attaining to a true knowledge; but they put the blame on our writings, and call us charlatans and impostors. They argue that if the Stone could be found at all, they must have discovered it long ago, their eyes being as keen and their minds as acute as they are. "Behold," say they, "how we have toiled day and night, how many books we have read, how many years we have spent in our laboratories: surely if there were anything in this Art, it could not have escaped us." By speaking thus, they only exhibit their own presumption and folly. They themselves have no eyes, and they make that an argument for blaspheming our high and holy Art.

By far, one of my favorite parts that I've read so far.

OP, this is incredible and THANK YOU for passing this along!!!!

People on ATS might not realize how incredible this might end up being, but in due time I see that changing if this is the real deal.

S&F

~Namaste

Cool. Thanks everyone! I know this is a big thing, that's why it's so hard to talk about. This forum is really not the place to post something like this. It should be the frontpage of every newspaper in the world. But I'm just doing what I can, like it says at the top of the 2nd chapter.

Here are some of my favorite quotes:

I will explain again in another way: the Philosophers' Stone is the name of the thing that you get when Nature has finished doing what it does all day long. The Earth and the entire universe is going through this process. If, however, you find a substance already quite well matured by Nature, clean it up, then put it into a closed system, or microcosm, Nature will finish this thing long before it finishes everything else. So you get the result of Nature earlier and can enjoy all its wonderful properties while the rest of the world is still in #.

It is possible indeed that some dull person may allege in refutation of our reasoning his inability to accomplish those chemical transformations on which it is based; but such operators would be vindicating too great an honour for their ignorance if they claimed to advance it as an argument against the truth of our Art. They must not make their own little understandings the standard or measure of the possibilities of Nature.

And who can argue that the alchemists were spiritual against quotes like this:

So long as the secret is possessed by a comparatively small number of philosophers, their lot is anything but a bright and happy one; surrounded as we are on every side by the cruel greed and the prying suspicion of the multitude, we are doomed, like Cain, to wander over the earth homeless and friendless. Not for us are the soothing influences of domestic happiness; not for us the delightful confidences of friendship. Men who covet our golden secret pursue us from place to place, and fear closes our lips, when love tempts us to open ourselves freely to a brother. Thus we feel prompted at times to burst forth into the desolate exclamation of Cain: "Whoever finds me will slay me." Yet we are not the murderers of our brethren; we are anxious only to do good to our fellow-men. But even our kindness and charitable compassion are rewarded with black ingratitude—ingratitude that cries to heaven for vengeance. It was only a short time ago that, after visiting the plague-stricken haunts of a certain city, and restoring the sick to perfect health by means of my miraculous medicine, I found myself surrounded by a yelling mob, who demanded that I should give to them my Elixir of the Sages; and it was only by changing my dress and my name, by shaving off my beard and putting on a wig, that I was enabled to save my life, and escape from the hands of those wicked men. And even when our lives are not threatened, it is not pleasant to find ourselves, wherever we go, the central objects of human greed. . . . I know of several persons who were found strangled in their beds, simply because they were suspected of possessing this secret, though, in reality, they knew no more about it than their murderers; it was enough for some desperate ruffians, that a mere whisper of suspicion had been breathed against their victims. Men are so eager to have this Medicine that your very caution will arouse their suspicions, and endanger your safety. Again, if you desire to sell any large quantity of your gold and silver, you will be unable to do so without imminent risk of discovery. The very fact that anyone has a great mass of bullion for sale would in most places excite suspicion. This feeling will be strengthened when people test the quality of our gold; for it is much finer and purer than any of the gold which is brought from Barbary, or from the Guinea Coast; and our silver is better even than that which is conveyed home by the Spanish silver fleet. If, in order to baffle discovery, you mix these precious metals with alloy, you render yourself liable, in England and Holland at least, to capital punishment; for in those countries no one is permitted to tamper with the precious metals, except the officers of the mint, and the licensed goldsmiths. I remember once going, in the disguise of a foreign merchant, to a goldsmith's shop, and offering him 600 pounds worth of our pure silver for sale. He subjected it to the usual tests, and then said: "This silver is artificially prepared." When I asked him why he thought so, his answer was: "I am not a novice in my profession, and know very well the exact quality of the silver which is brought from the different mines." When I heard these words I took myself away with great secrecy and dispatch, leaving the silver in the hands of the goldsmith. On this account, and by reason of the many and great difficulties which beset us, the possessors of this Stone, on every side, we do elect to remain hidden, and will communicate the Art to those who are worthily covetous of our secrets, and then mark what public good will befall.

An Open Entrance to the Closed Palace of the King
by An Anonymous Sage and Lover of Truth, 1645 AD

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It's not so serious about urine Frater210. It's just that urine is the most efficient substance found for making the Stone, but anything could be used in theory. I don't think alchemy has anything to do with urine therapy.

Well I suppose it could be related since he goes on it the book about life-energy being in urine and that's why its good. Which could be the same as why urine therapy is whatever. But surely then it would be just as advantageous to not pee at all. Seems to be strange to drink something that your body just tried to get rid of.

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EDIT: I see your point. But it's supposed to be the same also in fruit as well. Everything has life-energy. Urine is only better for the Stone since it is already broken up into very small particles and filtered. But if it's just about life energy then surely fruit would be a better choice.

The philosophers stone is not the only way to obtain prana(life force) that the author speaks of, however it yeilds the most prana.
There are certain meditations which focus specifically on absorbing life force. This force, once absorbed, can be channeled from the heart chakra, down your arms and out the two chakras in your palms into a cup of water.
This is self healing, and just like the philosophers stone, is VERY real.
Drinking this water 3 times a day has proven to be extremely beneficial to my body.

Neato, doubt I could take on such a read, but can try one day.

Originally posted by sign00
TheWalkingFox:

Please read the book before commenting on it. You should read the chapter on Interpretations. The whole idea about alchemy being spiritual was from the 19th century.

So this book tells you. ever read any texts besides this one? They're heavily-rooted in mysticism, drawing their roots primarily from Kabbalah and Gnosticism. Like Eastern Taoist alchemy, western Alchemy is first and foremost about the perfection of one's self. Perfect knowledge, perfect health, perfect peace. This is gained through time spent in practice and scholarship, essentially learning about yourself and the world around you, and how best to apply that knowledge to one's own benefit.

The actual alchemists themselves spoke about an actual physical substance.

Indeed they did. And not a single one of them ever agreed what that substance was. That's because the "philosopher's stone," as a tangible object, is a red herring. Like Dumbo's magic feather, the item itself is not in any way special or powerful. It's your endeavor to produce it and the goals you outline and the paths you follow that are important. By the time you reach the perfection of substance, you realize that, whatever it is, you don't actually need it.

This whole thing about alchemy having to hide that it was religious because of the politics is untrue, which we can see because alchemy as it was written was itself attacked throughout history by the kings and church. England and Holland both made alchemy illegal and punishable as a felony. So who were they hiding from? No, they were not hiding from the politicians, who were after them even with their obscure words.

Actually given that you just noted that Kings and the church both persecuted alchemy, i'd guess that's exactly who they were hiding from. Also, there's the simple fact that if word got out that you were an alchemist, next day there's be a line at your door of people demanding magic potions for this, that, and the other thing. Another thing alchemists were hiding from? Other alchemists. it was a pretty competitive field of study, after all...

Considering that this is a brand new book which has just come out, which is totally different to anything released before, I think it would be worthwhile to actually read it before announcing your opinion on why it is wrong.

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It could just be a book chunked together by someone who thinks getting a bunch of people to boil pee in the hopes of being able to turn things to gold as part of a 15th-century get rich quick scheme is funny. You'd think, being a "new" book, we could get a youtube demonstration or something, right?

Thus book is in no way at all "totally different" from anything previous - greatly because the book is about 2/3 comprised of excerpts from other works.

I mean hey, if you want to boil a liter of urine for a year and a half... be my guest, really. Just don't expect me to mop

Alchemy, (turning lead into gold) DIED when Russia found the lead around their nuclear reactor was turning to gold.

Now man can take lead and turn it into as much gold as you need. Alchemy has been SOLVED.

Now Russia and China are researching how to slow down and speed up radioactive decay. By 2015 they will build the first 21st Century nuclear reactor capable of taking stable lightly radioactive material and speeding up it's radioactive decay releasing ENORMOUS amounts of energy...but when they flip the switch off.....everything is as stable as a rock. No more nuclear fallout...contamination from accidents.

It will be weaponized to be able to turn an army into 90 year old men...or dust. It doesn't matter if the Philosophers Stone was real...we've figured out how to slow down or speed up radioactive decay.

Pray it doesn't get used on us. Another method is to use nanotechnology to make a nano-mirror to collect Neutrino's emitted from the sun and pinpoint them on something. Like your nuclear warhead in that silo...causing unmeasureable energy to be released instantly as the radioactive material doesn't decay over millions of years...but seconds.

Originally posted by Pervius
Alchemy, (turning lead into gold) DIED when Russia found the lead around their nuclear reactor was turning to gold.

Now man can take lead and turn it into as much gold as you need. Alchemy has been SOLVED.

Now Russia and China are researching how to slow down and speed up radioactive decay. By 2015 they will build the first 21st Century nuclear reactor capable of taking stable lightly radioactive material and speeding up it's radioactive decay releasing ENORMOUS amounts of energy...but when they flip the switch off.....everything is as stable as a rock. No more nuclear fallout...contamination from accidents.

It will be weaponized to be able to turn an army into 90 year old men...or dust. It doesn't matter if the Philosophers Stone was real...we've figured out how to slow down or speed up radioactive decay.

Pray it doesn't get used on us. Another method is to use nanotechnology to make a nano-mirror to collect Neutrino's emitted from the sun and pinpoint them on something. Like your nuclear warhead in that silo...causing unmeasureable energy to be released instantly as the radioactive material doesn't decay over millions of years...but seconds.

That's nice. I see you're very wise. Alchemy is now solved because of your comment on nuclear reactors and how we can use these to kill people. Pervius: the last of the alchemists.

Read the book people!

Thank you for sharing this source with us, OP!
Man, if I had this stone, I would rush to my next hospital and run through all the floors, to let everyone touch it as quickly as I could. There would be so many great things you could do with such a powerful stone.....

But the thing is,..... how to produce enough of these stones so that everyone could have one, and more important, how to avoid that greedy and stubborn people try to keep the stone for themselves and form a superhuman elite?