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It's probably just me.
I can't find the connection between the much vaunted "melting pot" and the equally promoted "celebrating diversity". I mean, if we are to "celebrate diversity", where does the melting pot come in? what's being melted, blended together? How does it maintain it's diversity in that blend, if it's truly a blend to be?
Don't they call trying to hold two opposing viewpoints at the same time "cognitive dissonance"?
It looks to me like there's a choice to be made between integrating and maintaining your diversity, between constructing a culture and balkanizing into a myriad of alternate cultures.
That ought not to be the only choices, and won't be if folks ever get it figured out. I've got my doubts that they ever will, human nature being what it is.
It's not entirely impossible to maintain your own cultural traditions while integrating into the whole, but it'll never get done as long as everyone thinks their race is supreme, and ought to prevail. That's not just a "white" thing. I've sen it in at least three other "races", and likely more. Asians (in America) seem to have a grasp on how to make it work, but they, being able to make it work, don't impose that solution on the rest.
And it seems the rest don't care to learn from them.
Originally posted by caf1550
reply to post by muse7
idk man im tired of the fact the come here illegally.
if they want to be US citizens good for them they should have to do it the way my forefathers did along time ago. they should not be aloud to have a kid in the country and then they can stay because of that.
im all for it if they want to do it the RIGHT way and become citizens but the thing is illegal aliens are currently taking jobs away from actual americans.
i live in mass and they want to give illegal immigrents drivers licenses health care and free college tuition to state schools, i dont get free college tuition and ive been a US citizen all my life so have my parents and there parents and there parents before them, tell me how that is right
sorry to rant but this subject really gets to me
Originally posted by dude69
reply to post by James1982
Hm?...You would be treated different in foreign countries. Whites are treating like kings in Saudi Arabia and many foreign countries...they have their own little compounds with pools, gyms and a restaurant. Like a beach resort. Where they all live and nobody bothers them. The compounds in Saudi Arabia even have Arab military set up around it. Not just white people, foreigners in general. Weird huh? Same thing in China and Africa.edit on 25-3-2011 by dude69 because: (no reason given)
in Saudi Arabia even have Arab military set up around it
Originally posted by caf1550
reply to post by CUJOCREEP
i couldnt agree more, i HATE the fact that our government cares more about the rest of the world then there own citizens, our infastructure is collasping and economy is terrible the greatest unemployement since the great depression yet we are in libya helping them with a civil war and are still on two other fronts also.
start helping your own citizens for once, i wish american was the way it was in the 1900s
Originally posted by dude69
reply to post by James1982
Huh?...that's like saying because there are many murderers walking around on this planet and many murderers that have killed, it was allright to kill that entire family and their dog.
But I get your point...rolling out old conflicts that none of us had anything to do with over and over again isn't going to help anybody.
edit on 25-3-2011 by dude69 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Jomina
I don't think "race" matters nearly as much as "culture" .. you can introduce a new race into a population and they can get on fine, assuming they assimilate. You can mix 2 cultures in one population and you may end up with distrust, violence and segregation.
The biggest reason why Hispanics are more often than not targeted in this debate is that they simply don't care about our culture, American culture, it's more of a massive cultural pole shift going on in many states. Whereas Asians increased 43% (never mind Hispanic is white/Asian mix or just Asian in it's self...) and you don't see people on TV complaining about the huge increase in the Asian population. Perhaps it's because we are used to it, Asians have been slowly trickling into the country for over a century now. The cultures of the Asian population, mostly Chinese, Japanese and Korean, are very different than the culture of Hispanics, mostly Mexican .. I think perhaps we Americans actually identify more with the Asian culture, the only real barrier being English, and even if they have a bad accent I rarely meet an Asian immigrant that doesn't speak English. Or a Middle Eastern immigrant that doesn't speak English. But I can go to the store, the gas station, a restaurant and be served by someone who can't speak English at all.
Though I still think there is an institutionalized hatred of Whites specifically as a race, not a culture.