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Originally posted by liejunkie01
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Again I have to say, where were these things pre 1990s? The skies weren't this bad until then, I know because I've been an amateur astronomer-sky watcher all my life. It gets worse as the years go by. We are still waiting for a decent explanation as to their sudden full-on appearances.
Are you kidding me? I just gogled World War Two contrail pictures and there are alot of these pics. This is just a few.
1953
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Here is one in the Phillipines
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Contrails are nothing new. All you have to do is look at unbiased infomation. Not information coming from a source with an agenda to spread false acusations.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
I just knew that real info would be overlooked by those who wish to believe in false truth's and spread information with no scientific backing. You cannot refute the studies when it is scientifically perfomed in this way. This subject is like beating a dead horse. As I have said before the damn horse is nothing but mush by now.
I was hoping that some of the believers in chemtrails would take a little something from this study. But I guess not.
Thank you
Lj01
Contrails do not Exist!!! Prove me wrong!
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A Denial of Ignorance
Wherein a contrail conspiracy is revealed
and it's proponents unmasked as Pedlars
of Pseudo-Scientific Flippancy
A proposal or two for an experiment is provided,
and the IHM is short-circuited to the dismay of it's Con-trollers
"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."
Looks pretty serious science to me - and there are an awful lot of papers out there similarly by people with lots of letters after their names on atmospheric science that run counter to the chemtrail theory.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
Try this one:
www.history.navy.mil...
Can be found halfway down on the history page of USS Birmingham:
www.history.navy.mil...
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Looks pretty serious science to me - and there are an awful lot of papers out there similarly by people with lots of letters after their names on atmospheric science that run counter to the chemtrail theory.
The University of East Anglia's (UEA) Climatic Research Unit (CRU) were putting out "an awful lot of papers out there similarly by people with lots of letters after their names on atmospheric science"
Looked like "pretty serious science" backing the AGW
until their e-mails got hacked[/quote[]
there you have it in a nutshell
an inconvenient truth
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Originally posted by Lunartik Just remember folks:- A troll is someone who disagrees with what you post. A troll will point out your stupidity and bigotry. Dont worry though. If you have been found lacking upstairs, you can always report them. ITS A TROLL. THEY MADE ME LOOK STUPID. oh yuk ughoo, ( in the voice of Pluto) I am stupid. nevermind. The internetz is here to defend the rights of the mentally retarded. POST BANNED>
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
the point of my "photo analysis" was to point out that any WWII pics are not gonna have EXIF or any kind of Data on them these pics are scans [scans not scams] and do not constitute proof of anything. who says it's a real pic you would have to have the originals analyzed by a third party and post the analysis.
it's your claim so burden of proof is on YOU in this case. that's not trolling, just pointing a wee flaw is all
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
the point of my "photo analysis" was to point out that any WWII pics are not gonna have EXIF or any kind of Data on them these pics are scans [scans not scams] and do not constitute proof of anything. who says it's a real pic you would have to have the originals analyzed by a third party and post the analysis.
it's your claim so burden of proof is on YOU in this case. that's not trolling, just pointing a wee flaw is all
there is aample contemporary (WW2) written and eyewitness evidence of contrails existing in the same manner as the photos depict, from many many sources to make the photos evidential unless they can be shown otherwise.
If you are seriously suggesting there has been tampering then the burden of proof for that claim rests with you.
I would not be surprised if the original negatives are probably still available for many of those photos - why dont' you go get some credible evidence for your claims? Talk is cheap.
(snicker, because no chemtrail advocate ever does )
The reason i said you were trolling is that it is convenient that you just happen to show up at my threads posting information in a manner that i find a little disrespectful. This is my opinion and I have a pretty godd idea of what you are about. But that is neither here or now, so with that being said, I fell into you peoples trap of asking for pre 19609,s photos of contrails. Thank you all for setting the bait. I took it. You sit and nock some pictures that mightnot be able to verify, then you post a youtube video of chemtrails that you make. Hmmm.