Those who believe in a Creator: Why are there so many unhibited/able planets?

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posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 04:32 AM
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well the bible DOESN'T say a word about us being the only life in the universe.. Please read the bible before you talk about it. the more scientists study the universe and look for life the more they found out how alone we are. here is something to think about: If we humans (inteligent beings) can't create anything without creation. and nothing with no inteligence involved created everything. then we humans are in a sad state of afair. Even our human created simulated enviorments (computer generated) can't even come close to how complex the universe really is. and yes the bible does give scientific facts that people couldn't possibly know at that time for example the bible mentions that the earth is round.
the bible mentions about the evaperation process. and there is more.. Also the bible codes are real interesting.




posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 04:40 AM
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Genesis





Chapter 1
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1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Chapter 2
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2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

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Well, nowhere in here does it say he only made life on one specific planet! Of course ancient scribes and prophets might not have been thinking about other planets because they didn't even know what a planet was, but then again they didn't know about a lot of things and this was written on papyrus instead of HTML, but hey who are we to dis the past? ^^


TN1

posted on Jul, 29 2004 @ 08:43 AM
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Life is a product of the evolution of our universe, first of all.

The same elements make up the stars, the planets, and all objects in the universe, the same elements make up us. It's very simple, Hydrogen the lightest element, then Helium, Lithium and Berelium.

Therefore we are NOT the only planet with life&intelligent life in the universe!!!

According to statistical mathematics, and to DRUG formula (correct me, if the name is not spelled right) there are 100,000 forms of life, only in our galaxy. And in our galaxy there are approximately 100 Billion stars.

A 100 Billion stars in the galaxy multiplied with 100 Billions galaxies, the total amount in the universe, makes 10^22, ( ten to the power of 22) stars!!!

Just imagine......

Some simple astronomy: Mars was what earth is today some millions of years ago, life is like a cycle. Mars had water and atmosphere, today it still has water underneath its surface and it has also poles, THATS THE MOST IMPORTANT, because it is an active planet!!!!
Of course when mars had water this doesn't mean it has intelligent life like us but it could had as well, also it is more probable that it had plantation and, some sort of animals = LIFE!!!

Don't assume that because we are more intelligent than the animals, we are like Gods!!! We might be very stupid comparing to other species, we don't even know the history of our race, for example.
We don't have unique theories, for almost anything, we beleive, that someone has to had make us just to satisfy our imperfection and the inability toexplain things.

Although i don't really beleive in a superior being, i cannot say that it doesn't exist, but if it does it will be completely different from what we think of it, and apparently much more inelligent, not as stupid as the human beings.

A weak physicist.....



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 04:36 PM
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My intent was not to set a trap for any specific belief. I don't believe that anyone here knows the answer. Every answer to this question is a conjecture based on individual beliefs and experiences.

I thought I could see both sides of the coin, but I suspected that maybe this is not really a two sided coin. Based on the answers above I was correct. Many of you took the time to explain your thoughts and I am pleased to say that some of the answers were unexpected and, at least to me, insightful.

Of course, like many questions that can be answered only by conjecture, this question, for me, has only created more questions.

Thank you.



posted on Jul, 30 2004 @ 06:24 PM
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I am a Christian. I believe that there could be other worlds in the universe capable of supporting life, and some which might alright have others living there. Well, there goes the one Earth theory...

...the above remarks are my personal opinion. If you must feel important enough to tell me that my opinions are "wrong", first remember that they are but opinions. Also, I hope that I will never tell you that your opinions are "wrong"...



posted on Aug, 1 2004 @ 11:48 AM
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Science: "Our Universe has sprung by one Big Bang. It, a great ball of energetic atoms, provided this ever-going dynamic roller-coaster, that provides in its turn, a balance in our Solarsystem - therefore us humans are alive and evolved from Ape to Man. And Man will perish too, perhaps; our Universe is widening and usurping itself."

Christian world: "No!! There wasnt a sidespring of Ape to Man, and there wasnt a Big Bang. God created the Heavens and Earth and Man to His own approval and resemblance, in 6 days. And His Kindom come for all Eternity!"



Why is God imagined as we have been doing, propagated
throughout centuries? As if a Gandalf waving his staff about? Perhaps if God is inside us all, then it is vested in molecules, trees, the next planet and beyond galaxies. Perhaps God was one unmeasurable bored ball of energy (the highest in all hierarchies and levels, as mentioned as Kether, Nirvana, etc) that wanted to manifest and just exploded and scattered its energy throughout.... nothingness. Creating, giving birth to something.

Being a manifest calculated concept of chaos and order. End and beginning.
Balance and disorder, to have an ever-turning cycle. The more it comes to a deeper definition of itself (happiness), the better the concept is realised -
or vice versa;, for us humans. But the result of it itself isnt interesting;
its the process of thought and expression (experiencing), that is the core of all that has life.


How do you feel about this stuff?



posted on Aug, 5 2004 @ 01:04 AM
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The answer is simple and obvious, if God only made 1 planet, that was able to sustain life, it would be quite obvious that we are unique, and that somone created us, but gives no freebies, such as us obviously being created, because faith is the key to God, faith is not needed with easy concrete proof.






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