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Did I break the law? Yes. I commited a misdemeanor according to the VA statutes. I read them and stayed within those limits so that if I did get caught, it wouldn't ruin my life. It never occurred to me that they would manufacture a felony case against me. Call me naive.
Originally posted by buni11687
reply to post by BadBoYeed
I do remember hearing about that and I think I first heard about it here on ATS.
I personally think there are 2 major differences between us and them.
First is pretty much a given - their drug policy. Get caught here with a tiny bit, even less than a gram, of some stuff, and your looking at a few years in prison.
Second - We have a for-profit prison industry. The more people we put in jail, the more money the corporations that run the prisons make. Heck, they trade their stocks..... (humans) ......on the stock market.
reply to post by buni11687
Nov. 13, 2008 -- The percentage of Americans who smoke cigarettes has fallen below 20% for the first time since at least the mid-1960s, according to a new report.
I don't want to get into why I was growing the plants with kids in the house. Believe me, I am my own worst critic. Every Single Day.
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by buni11687
Fix the drug laws and corrupt or overzealous law enforcement, and I actually have little problem with this.
Accountability isn't only lacking within government, but in people too. What this also means is that roughly 3 out of 4 adults take personal responsibility very seriously.
As a private employer, I don't want the government telling me that I have to hire a convicted criminal.
Incidentally, under federal law, only convictions may be considered indefinitely. There are a few states that limit consideration to seven years. Records of arrest, under federal law, are limited to seven years. But some states prohibit consideration of arrest records altogether.
Assuming the legitimacy of prosecution, if you don't like the consequences, then don't do the crime.
Harsh? Not really, imo.
edit on 24-3-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by bandito
With so many educated , qualified and experienced people looking for work why would i as an employer hire a convicted criminal ? Many businesses deal in the transactions of money , private information and valuable goods and many require third party bonding . I don't care how small the conviction or how small the charge , that person has removed all doubt that they will ignore and violate the law . Caught with one joint , your problem as i have no way of knowing if you'll be smoking dope on my time . Petty theft , your problem as you won't get a chance to steal from me or my company . Violence for a conviction , your problem as my company works on the team aspect so you won't be coming here where in the midst of team resolutions to intimidate or fight my staff . A convicted criminal offers me absolutely nothing and i won't be wasting one minute looking into the particulars of your situation or conviction because the other 75% haven't been convicted of a criminal offense and that's the pool i'll draw from . Another thing , Facebook and Myspace along with other social networking sites . Even without a criminal conviction you can eliminate yourself from a job competition very easily and very quickly depending upon what you have posted there along with your friends . No , your privacy settings don't matter .
Many employers and business owners have fed themselves the b.s. that they are some how "owed" by society for "providing work" for people. In actuality, they owe society for providing them labor, for without labor they would have to do all that work themselves.
It depends if it was a felony or mistimeanor. A mistimeanor doesn't take your priveledge to vote away but a felony will. Certain types of felonies will forever bar your priveledge to vote and you may have to earn and fight for it back. It is called folony disinfrachisement and it is running rampant in the U.S. It basically means if you have broken the law and serve your time then you can still live in the U.S but are not afforded the priveledge of voting and sometimes have to live where they tell you to live plus have record over your head for the rest of your life and lose your priveledge of gun ownership forever. Kinda reminds me of an old Merle Haggard song "branded man" . I hope you take notice to my usage of the word"priveledge" instead of "right" because that is what our gov't would like to portray to the free people. Free people are only free when they assert their god given rights and won't let them "take" them away. Rights can never be taken away if they are true rights!
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Just out of interest, are you still allowed to vote if you have a criminal record?
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
I knew someone who got pulled over recently for a broken tail light and the cop asked to search her car.....
Originally posted by JakesterL
It was when “shaken baby syndrome” was all the fad.
Originally posted by LoverBoy
reply to post by mblahnikluver
Those brass knuckles....instead of being on a belt....were in his pocket. Rightttt, what you don't realize is they see this bs everyday. If your friend didn't have a joint in her car, she wouldn't have been searched. Instead of an excuse for everything, take responsibility for your actions. If you don't know the federal laws or state laws, read them. Don't put yourself in a position like that to begin with.
Originally posted by LoverBoy
Of course not, my child isn't an illegal substance either.