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Libyan rebels have University degrees from the West

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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From the BBC Link
Amercian Libyans Rebels From The West



"The anti-Gaddafi protests are now concentrated on Fridays after the noon prayer. They consider it too dangerous to assemble at any other time. The protesters tend to be better educated than the regime supporters, often speaking foreign languages and with university degrees from the west."


Remember when i said it was odd and strange for Libyan rebel to speak in english in there young youths like they do right on cue at in the mainstream news.


Well now you know why, this uprising has been about oil, once again the media are using propaganda to make it look like its a real uprising yet the sad reality is that its a setting place for the elites bigger plans.



Regular attendance for the demonstrations leaves you with the impression that only one slice of the population is represented.



Hmm thats odd does BBC expect us to believe that Libya a nation of 6,419,925 people are all agaisnt Gaddafi after all these 30 Years? somehow i find that hard to believe.




posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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I know how it looks, but put this into perspective.

Learning English because it is easy to assimilate within the western community, earning a University Degree because they have ambitions. Fighting for there freedom because they want a future...for EVERYBODY! It's like your tarring everyone with the same brush, what did you expect? the rebels to flow down from out of there caves into the towns and citys? You can act on the one person that steps out of line, but when the majority steps out of line, your going to have a fight on your hands, it just took time.
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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
From the BBC Link
Amercian Libyans Rebels From The West



"The anti-Gaddafi protests are now concentrated on Fridays after the noon prayer. They consider it too dangerous to assemble at any other time. The protesters tend to be better educated than the regime supporters, often speaking foreign languages and with university degrees from the west."


Remember when i said it was odd and strange for Libyan rebel to speak in english in there young youths like they do right on cue at in the mainstream news.


Well now you know why, this uprising has been about oil, once again the media are using propaganda to make it look like its a real uprising yet the sad reality is that its a setting place for the elites bigger plans.



Regular attendance for the demonstrations leaves you with the impression that only one slice of the population is represented.



Hmm thats odd does BBC expect us to believe that Libya a nation of 6,419,925 people are all agaisnt Gaddafi after all these 30 Years? somehow i find that hard to believe.



Has it never been not about oil? Yes it easy to believe that the people of Libya have not spoken out against their government, because it would have gotten them killed. These people do not live in a place where free speech is a given right, speaking against your gov in this type of place will be like committing suicide.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Furthermore, there were people employed by Ghaddafi, who had no choice but to work under his control. If I was making money I would then use it to further my child's education so he/she would have the opportunity's later on when change was imminent.

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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The leaders of the rebellion lived in the US for years and earned their degrees at American universities.

They have definitely been influenced by Western liberal intellectual movements and are applying what they learned.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 01:58 AM
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But that still isn't a bad thing, if I was to form a government, I would take slivers of ideas from Dictatorships/Communism/Fasicm and Socialism among other things.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by Sounds_of_Silence
I know how it looks, but put this into perspective.

Learning English because it is easy to assimilate within the western community, earning a University Degree because they have ambitions. Fighting for there freedom because they want a future...for EVERYBODY! It's like your tarring everyone with the same brush, what did you expect? the rebels to flow down from out of there caves into the towns and citys? You can act on the one person that steps out of line, but when the majority steps out of line, your going to have a fight on your hands, it just took time.
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because they want a future...for EVERYBODY! It's like your tarring everyone with the same brush, what did you expect?

Excuse me but what future? a country been run and controlled by american European powers like a puppet state country huh just like Iraq in fact let me ask you the same question do you feel the iraqis have freedom or future now? when i look at the youtube videos and the pictures of how the iraqi capital looks like.

It looks like a controlled prison! you dont think that wont happen in Libya?

How about this what if america has an uprising and the russians or the Chinese decide to help the american rebels, would you welcome it or fight agaisnt it?

Knowing this, america will be either controlled by china or russia and eupore if america has a country fails.




earning a University Degree because they have ambitions.

in some places in north america having Degrees are usually useless, unless you have connections in the job market or you find a job by luck not ambitions.





Learning English because it is easy to assimilate within the western community,


That reminds me, when the soviet owned half of eupore did soviets forced or assimilate you to learn russian?
i think not.


By the way a democratic society brings poverty just look what the uprising brought in Romania during the 1989 revolt overthrow of the soviet prime minster, speaking of which how has democratic system been working for the USA or eupore for that matter.



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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 02:10 AM
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Its not a bad thing.

Education is the key to having a responsible revolution and preventing the rise of tyrants.

Demogogues and future dictators prey on uneducated masses in their rise to power.

So a liberal education is definitely a good thing.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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TCOTBIP and their MSM mouthpieces will be telling us soon that gadaffi had his soldiers?/mercenaries? take babies out of incubators and ate them. Nurse_Nayirah or some other type of false flag


i've been sharing the following links on all the Libya related threads 'cause a lot of people have been drinking the kool-aid on this one

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi www.abovetopsecret.com...


Exclusive: Benghazi Explosion – Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected www.abovetopsecret.com...

Tactical BS more like it, it was the BS meter that actually exploded
, later shown to be the bombing of a local arms depot/cache


Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler The headline ought to read Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected by Donald Duck. The article seems to be making a case for that any explosion anywhere that either hurts or offends the sensibilities of Americans is a tactical nuke! The article also suggests the Oklahoma Bombing was a tactical nuclear device! Seems like yet another sensationalized accusation of the kind that gave us WMD in Iraq. Just a lot of unsubstantiated gibberish designed to enflame and anger people and get people here thinking about paying for another war for oil. How many times are the American people going to get fooled by the same old song and dance, wrap it in a flag, and have God bless it, and presto whamo American bombs start snuffing out 'collateral damage' everywhere.


Benghazi's importance to Libya and possibly the World:
also explains why Qaddafi has come down really harsh on these "rebels"


While many countries in the Middle East and North Africa bicker over water rights, Libya has tapped into an aquifer of 'fossil water' to change its topography – turning sand into soil. The 26-year, $20 billion project is nearly finished. …The Great Man-Made River, which is leader Muammar Qaddafi's ambitious answer to the country’s water problems, irrigates Libya’s large desert farms. The 2,333-mile network of pipes ferry water from four major underground aquifers in southern Libya to the northern population centers. Wells punctuate the water’s path, allowing farmers to utilize the water network in their fields. ... “Water is more precious for us than oil. ... Water here in Libya, it’s life.”


after all why would Qaddafi want to damage or destroy a 26-year, $20+ billion project that he considers his life's work?

Virtually unknown in the West: Libya's water resources. The real reason for toppling Quadaffi? www.abovetopsecret.com...


Libya: British plans to strip Gaddafi of oil revenue www.abovetopsecret.com...

Libya False Flag -part 1: Reuters Hoax EXPOSED www.abovetopsecret.com...
truthfrequencynews.com...
World Cheers as the CIA Plunges Libya Into Chaos www.informationclearinghouse.info...



How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people. However, unlike the article claims, Kadaffi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Kadaffi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn't, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is
Baghdadi Mahmudi. Calling Khadaffi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan. Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gadaffi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gadaffi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya's current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.

Are the protesters in Libya comparable to the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia? Not at all. The governments reaction is more violent, and obviously excessive violence is being used. However let us look for a moment at the actions of the protesters. The building of the the general people's congress, the parliament of Libya, was put on fire by angry protestors. This is comparable to protesters putting the United States Capitol on fire. Do you think that for even a moment the US government would sit idly by as protesters put the US capitol on fire?


Great Britain funded an Al Qaeda cell in Libya, in an attempt to assassinate Gadaffi. The main opposition group in Libya now is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya. This opposition group is being funded by Saudi Arabia, the CIA, and French Intelligence. This group unified itself with other opposition groups, to become the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition. It was this organization that called for the "Day of Rage" that plunged Libya into chaos on February 17 of this year.

It did this in Benghazi, a conservative city that has always been opposed to Gadaffi's rule. It should be noted that the National Front for the Salvation of Libya is well armed. In 1996 the group tried to unleash a revolution in the eastern part of Libya before. It used the Libyan National Army, the armed division of the NFSL to begin this failed uprising.

Why is the United States so opposed to Gadaffi? He is the main threat to US hegemony in Africa, because he attempts to unite the continent against the United States. This concept is called the United States of Africa. In fact, Gadaffi holds all sorts of ideas that are contrary to US interests. The man blames the United States government for the creation of HIV. He claims that Israel is behind the assasination of Martin Luther King and president John. F. Kennedy. He says that the 9/11 hijackers were trained in the US. He also urged Libyans to donate blood to Americans after 9/11. Khadaffi is also the last of a generation of moderate socialist pan-Arab revolutionaries that is still in power, after Nasser and Hussein have been eliminated, and Syria has aligned itself with Iran.The United States and Israel however have no interest in a strong Arab world. In fact it seems that elementary to the plan is bringing Libya to its knees through chaos and anarchy. In late 2010, the United Kingdom was still propping up the Libyan government through lucrative arms sales. Nothing is a better guarantee to destroy Libya than a bloody civil war. The tribal system that is still strong in Libya is useful to exploit to generate such a war since Libya has historically been divided into various tribal groups.

This is also why the Libyan government responds by importing mercenaries. Tribal allegiances go before allegiance to the government, especially in Benghazi, and thus the central government has no control over the eastern part of the country anymore. The alternative to mercenaries is a conflict between the various ethnic groups. Gadaffi has tried for 41 years to make the country more homogeneous, but opposition groups funded by outside forced will take little more than a few days to put the country back into the 19th century, before the region was conquered and unified by Europeans. The violence is indeed excessive, but everyone seems to forget that the situation is not the same as in Tunis and Egypt. Tribal ties play a far greater role, and thus the conflict will unfortunately be bloodier.


Kissinger plan to transform North Africa and Middle East into Turkmenistan forum.prisonplanet.com...
depopulation_linked_merck_pharma_announces_africa_plan www.infowars.com...

www.schillerinstitute.org...
wlym.com...

the last 2 links are must reads



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by Sounds_of_Silence
I know how it looks, but put this into perspective.

Learning English because it is easy to assimilate within the western community, earning a University Degree because they have ambitions. Fighting for there freedom because they want a future...for EVERYBODY! It's like your tarring everyone with the same brush, what did you expect? the rebels to flow down from out of there caves into the towns and citys? You can act on the one person that steps out of line, but when the majority steps out of line, your going to have a fight on your hands, it just took time.
edit on 24-3-2011 by Sounds_of_Silence because: (no reason given)





because they want a future...for EVERYBODY! It's like your tarring everyone with the same brush, what did you expect?

Excuse me but what future? a country been run and controlled by american European powers like a puppet state country huh just like Iraq in fact let me ask you the same question do you feel the iraqis have freedom or future now? when i look at the youtube videos and the pictures of how the iraqi capital looks like.

It looks like a controlled prison! you dont think that wont happen in Libya?

How about this what if america has an uprising and the russians or the Chinese decide to help the american rebels, would you welcome it or fight agaisnt it?

Knowing this, america will be either controlled by china or russia and eupore if america has a country fails.




earning a University Degree because they have ambitions.

in some places in north america having Degrees are usually useless, unless you have connections in the job market or you find a job by luck not ambitions.





Learning English because it is easy to assimilate within the western community,


That reminds me, when the soviet owned half of eupore did soviets forced or assimilate you to learn russian?
i think not.


By the way a democratic society brings poverty just look what the uprising brought in Romania during the 1989 revolt overthrow of the soviet prime minster, speaking of which how has democratic system been working for the USA or eupore for that matter.



edit on 24-3-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-3-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)


Yes, in actual fact the Soviets did require europeans in 'their' area to learn russian.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by JBA2848
I think I have one connect the dots that will show how this software is used for destabilization of countries.

www.huffingtonpost.com...



According to the contract between US Central Command (Centcom) and California company Ntrepid, the software would let each user control 10 personas, each "replete with background, history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographically consistent." The software would also be able to let personas "appear to originate in nearly any part of the world" and interact through "conventional online services and social media platforms," while using a static IP address for each persona to maintain a consistent online identity.



OK So we have a company name. Ntrepid

www.linkedin.com...




Ntrepid Corporation Activity on LinkedIn

Ramzi Asmar is now Analyst at Ntrepid Corporation
was Research Fellow at Matthew B. Ridgway Center for International Security Studies
6 hours ago


We have a name. Ramzi Asmar

www.linkedin.com...



Ramzi Asmar
Title
--
Demographic info
Washington D.C. Metro Area | Government Relations
Education: University of Pittsburgh, University of Balamand, West Virginia University Summary: Conduct detailed All-Source Intelligence Analysis and paralleling the analysis with Socio-Cultural understanding of the Middle East. Linguistic s...


www.policymic.com...



How Social Media Has Become the New Weapon in the Middle East
By Heba Taha | Topics: Middle East Issues | Posted on: Tuesday January 25th 2011


At the bottom of the page.



Photo Credit: Ramzi Asmar




I suggest reading the article above."How Social Media Has Become the New Weapon in the Middle East"

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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 12:31 AM
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They have degrees from foreign universities because Libya has a policy of free education for all. This includes studying post graduate in foreign countries.

These spokespeople are most likely to be recipients of this policy.



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