Full Meltdown Underway at Fukushima Reactor No.2 ? !!! Neutron Beam Observed !! , page 1

Japan's Nuclear Agency spokesman : " 500 Millisieverts per hour at crippled No.2 Fukushima reactor was reported on wednsday .

A Neutron beam could mean a melt down .. a combination of uranium and plutoniom ..






Link : theintelhub.com...

reply to post by L.HAMILTON

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Thanks for the up-date. A lot of people are going to need to see this...

Where is the Nuetron beam? Did I miss it?

What's with the 80's music? Between this thread and this one:www.abovetopsecret.com...
I feel like a kid again.

Is there an end in sight? I feel terrible sitting here with internet, air conditioning, electricity, water etc... , when all this stuff is happening right now.

......strange days indeed.

Originally posted by ballsdeep
Could someone please outline the implications of such an event?

This is already being discussed. Start reading here

Originally posted by MedievalGhost

Originally posted by ballsdeep
Could someone please outline the implications of such an event?

This is already being discussed. Start reading here

No doubt plenty of good information to be had on that thread, but 300+ pages (most of it nonsense) is a bit much to take in. I've read most of it, but I like the idea of starting fresh and drawing from the conclusions of such a mega-thread. Hard to jump in on something that long and varied.

The implications? Nothing good, my friend.

I saw this story on Kyodo news and I was disgusted that they seemed to be so blase about it! Am I just a complete idiot, or is this really, really bad? Especially that it has happened 13+ times?

reply to post by L.HAMILTON

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I'm skeptical of this report for a couple of reasons one that means the reactor is still operating. Now according to there procedures the boron rods dropped the minute the earth quake started. This would stop the fission process and no neutrons would be created.And finally how are they detecting this beam In a lab you have to use a scintillation detector just to see it. If the reactor core was breached this beam wouldn't move or disapear provided it would create a beam in the first place which is also unlikely. How ever if against all the laws of physics it actually occured the reactor core then is breached and you have more to worry about then a beam. At that point you have a bomb and we should be seeing a mushroom cloud with a live reactor with a breach. .

Originally posted by VariableConstant

Originally posted by MedievalGhost

Originally posted by ballsdeep
Could someone please outline the implications of such an event?

This is already being discussed. Start reading here

No doubt plenty of good information to be had on that thread, but 300+ pages (most of it nonsense) is a bit much to take in. I've read most of it, but I like the idea of starting fresh and drawing from the conclusions of such a mega-thread. Hard to jump in on something that long and varied.

The implications? Nothing good, my friend.

You don't have to read through all 300+ pages. I linked to page 296 where the discussion started. Please take the time to read through at least 3-4 pages from where I linked. There are many educated people on the subject posting there.

Bottom line- bad news. This is evidence of reactor meltdown.

reply to post by VariableConstant

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Thanks mate, but are we talking global chaos or something more localised?

reply to post by ballsdeep

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A neutron beam means that direct radiation (not just water that has picked up some radioactive elements) is now outside of the primary containment vessel.

In a meltdown, the pool of melted fuel would burn through the bottom of the reactor casing and essentially be exposed underneath the actual reactor vessel.

It could also mean that the reactor vessel had blown open (unlikely) or that there is a meltdown in the nearby storage tanks.

Originally posted by MedievalGhost

Originally posted by VariableConstant

Originally posted by MedievalGhost

Originally posted by ballsdeep
Could someone please outline the implications of such an event?

This is already being discussed. Start reading here

No doubt plenty of good information to be had on that thread, but 300+ pages (most of it nonsense) is a bit much to take in. I've read most of it, but I like the idea of starting fresh and drawing from the conclusions of such a mega-thread. Hard to jump in on something that long and varied.

The implications? Nothing good, my friend.

You don't have to read through 300 pages. I linked to page 296 where the discussion started. Please take the time to read through at least 3-4 pages from where I linked. There are many educated people on the subject posting there.

Bottom line. Bad news.This is evidence of reactor meltdown.

Don't take it the wrong way, I didn't mean to knock you man. I've read up on the thread, and yes, it's looking bad for all concerned. There is no "For those of you just joining us" button, just wanted to sum up the situation for someone who may not want or be able to read through it all. Respects.

reply to post by VariableConstant

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No problem.

reply to post by L.HAMILTON

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These reactors are synchronizing, and those are not neutron beams, but rather a type of discharge that comes from this type of restricted reaction. Essentially photons are literally forced through the reactor vessel’s containment alloy, and appear in flashes. They are not dangerous themselves, but rather are indicative of what is going on, and what is to come.

From what I read hear, MOX was only loaded into reactors 1 and 3, so a number 2 neutron beam is highly unlikely. That reactor would need to have completely consumed its fuel rods, and that amount of energy discharge in the short time since the tsunami would have liquefied the reactor vessel, regardless of how much water was pumped onto it.

As for radiation, there are many forms of radiation; all are beautiful from a scientific standpoint, in that they are elements that exist for a brief moment in time. Their unstable nature can harm humans, yes, but they are indiscriminate as they look for equilibrium, so their concentrations dissipate rapidly. What is a cause for concern is the sheer magnitude of the detonation that will occur if this reaction in not contained in the next week or so. Theoretically, a unified fission event can lead to a discharge of an incredibly high order of magnitude.

Originally posted by ballsdeep
reply to post by VariableConstant

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Thanks mate, but are we talking global chaos or something more localised?

I'd surmise global implications, but what do I know? I'm an educated man, but this is all outside the realm of my field of study. An already bad situation appears to be getting worse.

The direct implications are moving the INES number from 6 to 7 ( total disaster )

But the closer to home results are more radiation and radioactive particles released into the soil , water and air.

This German site has some great info:


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