So I've read all fifty-something pages of this thread, very interesting I must say. I've read a lot about the pineal, the "chakras," the
"kundalini" stuff, OBE's, astral and other planes, vibration/frequency levels, etc. that you all have discussed throughout this thread, though I
never have personally attempted to "walk" this "path," so to speak.
...or so I thought? I don't know. Many of the techniques outlined in the Sagan PDF(thanks for that by the way, very interesting read and great
addition to my archives), as well as techniques suggested by adepts in this thread are exactly like procedures outlined for
Autohypnosis, or Self-Hypnosis. It's a form of Autogenic training, or relaxation formulae,
that allows the use of autosuggestion on one's own subconscious.
For example, these two particular quotes:
Originally posted by Agarta
"You are calm, relaxed, and safe(pause) You are calm, relaxed, and safe(pause) You are calm, relaxed, and safe(pause).
Breath in through your nose and out through your mouth(pause), Breath in through your nose and out through your mouth(pause), Breath in through your
nose and out through your mouth(pause).
Concentrate on your feet and calves(pause), nothing but your feet and calves(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in your feet and
calves(pause, pause).
Concentrate on your thighs and buttocks(pause), nothing but your thighs and buttocks(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in your
thighs and buttocks(pause, pause).
Concentrate on your stomach and lower back(pause), nothing but your stomach and lower back(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in
your stomach and lower back(pause, pause).
Concentrate on your chest and upper back(pause), nothing but your chest and upper back(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in your
chest and upper back(pause, pause).
Concentrate on you neck, head, and face(pause), nothing but your neck, head, and face(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in your
neck, head, and face(pause, pause).
Concentrate on your whole body as a whole(pause), nothing but your whole body as a whole(pause), breath in relaxation and breath out all tension in
your whole body as a whole(pause, pause).
....and.....
Originally posted by Greensage
1. Sit with your back straight.
2. Breathe in through your nose and hold your breath as long as is comfortable- open your jaws so there is a small space between your top and bottom
teeth, place the tip of your tongue between the space of your slightly parted teeth.
3. Put a very light pressure onto the tongue with your teeth. This is like the same process of saying the "TH" part of the English word "the."
Once your tongue is in position, release your breath slowly through your mouth saying T-H-H-O-H-H in one long exhale (say the word one time pre
exhale) Your tongue will be vibrating between your teeth. You should feel the air moving past your tongue and teeth. If this technique is done
properly, you will feel a pressure or sensation in your jaw and cheeks. The tone will also vibrate in your 3rd eye. It may take a few seconds to
adjust this, don't worry, just keep going.
4. Do the above 5 times in a row.
...are autogenic procedures. I have hardcopy books of stuff like this, but an example I found after a quick google search can be found
here.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say what you guys are doing is just hypnosis and not third-eye stuff(or whatever it is called, I don't know
the proper terminology sorry). What I
am saying is what you all call "meditation," which is not something I have ever done, actually seems
to be exactly the same as what I have always called "autohypnosis," which I have done for
years. I've seen colors and stuff(auras?),
gone "flying" through "space" or deep in the oceans or around on the moon or whatever, seen lots of interesting stuff, had excellent vivid
"dreams" etc, been in places that seemed overwhelmingly full of light...all that kind of thing.
But I always have thought it was a result of "suggestions" that I implemented during my autohypnosis sessions. In other words, I have always
considered all this stuff to be happening only
in my own head.
So. Is what I have been doing, and what you all are doing, actually the same thing? If so, have I been wrong all this time about it just being in my
own head?
And...
Does that last question even matter?
Cheers to you all.