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God's Wife, Asherah, May Have Been Edited Out Of The Bible Says Theologian

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Oh, and She was also worship as Asherah, Astarte, Goddess of the Hearth and Home. She was edited out of the Bible's book of Kings I and II, They just refer to her as the '"grove" in the Bible today, because she was always worshipped in a "grove of trees" all that worshipped her were curcified on a Tree. In Kings it was her God that lite the Fire. Her name is also where we got the word "Star". King Solomon built his wife a place to worship her on a hill in Jeruselm, which is in the Bible called the Garden of Gethsemane.




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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I have always believed that the feminine has been intentionally erradicated from almost every religion and school of thought. It makes no sense to me that neither God nor Jesus had an female companion when companionship between males and females is a constant seen throughout all of existence. Why would God and Jesus be exempt from that?

There is evidence that ancient matriarchal societies have been at least as prosperous and powerful as their patriarchal counterparts. Sometimes I think that the feminine energy is fighting back like the patriarchal energy did all those thousands of years ago. Maybe it's cyclical??



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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What's the point here, trying to prove early hebrews worshipped a tree that symbolized nature alongside their god?
Of course they did at various times and they abandoned it also at various times.

They lived in lands with many different tribes of nations, intermingling of commerce, marriage, wars, etc invariably mishmashed customs and beliefs together of the various peoples. The old testament is full of stories of purging idolotry from the people. That means they took up idolotry at various times in order for the need to purge it.

Does adopting another persons gods make them legitimate? Baal worship was in the land of the Hebrews, does that make Baal a god and them dirty Romans edited him out? What about in Egypt all them gods the Hebrews lived around, were they stomped on by the foot of Rome and excluded as equal gods? How about the story of the God of the Hebrews who demonstrates being superior to all other gods, if he had to share how could any story be accurate? Why isn't any Roman specific god added in as an equal to the God of the Hebrews if the Romans were so liberal with the pen?

Arguing the accuracy of the Bible is arguing against faith, those with faith say the Romans were used by the hand of God to guide his words to humanity till the end of time. No amount of scholarly debate will ever change that.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by ziggy1706
WOW! i ahd no idea god had a wife! ia lways wondered though. hell, i learned years ago, from a history channel documentary on the bible..adam and eve. eve was admas 2nd wife. his first wife, name skips my head right now, left him..they argued over the missionary position for sex, and she left. she cursed man, and some would say, she is the cause and rise, of a sucubus. god replaced her, with eve. the bible makes no mention of his first wife.
also, the bible talks of able and cane. cane murders able( think thats right) and skips to him having kids. the bible makes no mention of how who or where the woman came from. some scholars think it was a sister or soemthing,, incest, as was common so they say, back in those days.
the bible wa basically altered around the 1500;s or so...to iclude the new testament. the original bible, would go back like some ,1,700 years! and it was some pope i think, form the vatican, that put the pages of what he thought was important for poeple to read...not EVERYTHING


First wife was Lillith, the goddess who didn't want to be held down and went her own way.

Bible was altered by Constantine and his cronies in about 300 - 400 AD.

The ancients had it right, then things changed.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 03:11 AM
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Yes to the Godess, and yes to Jesus.

I wish you would not say "Get over it Christians" because I am forever trying to reclaim Jesus from the people who use His name in vain - for example, a lot of so-called Christians.

And the rest of the time I am always telling people not to believe the bible, written (and censored) by a lot of men, and I mean men, not women.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Pirateofpsychonautics
reply to post by ModernAcademia
 

I think the fact that the bible has been manipulated multiple times in recent history (previous 500 years) speaks volumes about the multiple edits and how various groups (Mormons) and people (King James etc.) have altered it.


Errr just to clarify, Mormons didn't edit or alter the Bible they use the King James version like most other christian churches do (ie not those ridicualous Bibles where gods gender is removed, and the thees and thous are all edited out etc)... the book of Mormon is an aside, a book related to the Bible through events and time period but in no way an alteration or replacement for it.

And I should know I am technically still one even though I haven't gone to church in over a decade... I stopped going around 20.

So please get your facts straight... pardon my defensiveness but it sounded like a slight veiled attack, if you didnt mean it as such, then apologies in advance.

And yes the western christian Bible as we have now isnt in anyway shape or form the original, not even by a long shot and hasn't been for centuries. But its the only version we have so what do you do? cant really throw the entire thing out can we... and reverting to the old Jewish version would be a nightmare.

Oh and heres a nugget, do you know we/they (Mormons, I prefer term LDS) believe that God has a wife.


edit on 24-3-2011 by BigfootNZ because: meh meh



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:12 AM
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Now we have a double problem - where did God come from, and where did his wife come from?

If you say a distant planet, I would tend to agree, but where did that distant planet come from?

If you keep going back forever, you go nuts.

And that is why we will never understand.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
Now we have a double problem - where did God come from, and where did his wife come from?

If you say a distant planet, I would tend to agree, but where did that distant planet come from?

If you keep going back forever, you go nuts.

And that is why we will never understand.


"What we are now, god once was. What god is now, we can become"

Dont quote me on it since I think i got it a little wrong. But If hes got a body, and a wife then there's a logical chance hes part of a pattern, in which case he had parents... if we are made in his image then logic would dictate a similar progression... although you then have issues with the Catholic ideas of godhood and the whole God is his own son, meaning his son is also his own father, along with also being this other guy part time whos a ghost who likes to muck around as a dove etc... and to think people have a hard time with Mormon beliefs?
(Not ribbing the Catholics, ive known many and they are good people like most human beings).

But yeah, we'll never understand till we get there ourselves, or even if we can get there, or if there is even a there to get to in the first place... wont stop a number of use fighting over it all though



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Most people do not understand God as being above His creation. He is the creator of male and female... and is therefore above concepts like gender, which apply to created beings.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia


Interesting isn't it?

Most religions stem from the same source, one of the oldest religions but still widely practiced is Hinduism.
Hinduism has MataJi, a Goddess and there were many MataJis but they were all reincarnation of a parent MataJi.

Hinduism, a monotheistic(Yes Monotheistic) religion also had a woman as a goddess and in India Mata is given tremendous respect.
That's why if you go to India and you hit a woman in public scores of Indians will jump you!

I do not believe in any organized religion though, but this smells conspiracy all over it.
Why did they edit her out?

Some women were witches, at one point women couldn't vote and now Women are known merely as sex objects.

What's going on here?
What exactly is happening here?

Enter Today:


www.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)




In who's world are women only sex objects? India? Surely not in my world.

Generalize much?



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
In who's world are women only sex objects? India? Surely not in my world.

Generalize much?

Don't watch TV much?
Don't watch music channels much?
Don't watch movies much?
Don't know that porn is one of the biggest industries that is only seeing growth

I remember growing up watching TLC, the Learning Channel, now when I switch to TLC all I see is people telling women that they need to dress better and show them how to change their wardrobe and dress better.

Look at the cosmetic industry, hollywood body shapes, parents buying breast implants and botox for their daughters.

You turn on the TV and watch shows geared toward teenagers and all you see is girls making fun of virgins.
Girls who can't wait to lose their virginity to girls being embarrased at such a young age to still be a virgin.

Sorry man but I don't know what world you think you live in



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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It did get posted like last week and all the people gave pretty good evidence that this is just the female god of Baal.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by BigfootNZ
Oh and heres a nugget, do you know we/they (Mormons, I prefer term LDS) believe that God has a wife.


Just one?
Badum-ching!



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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If you aren't a hot asshole you're not a guy. They make fun of guy virgins too, so? It's unfashionable to be chaste or to display any form of virtue or restraint.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
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Well, if you hate translations, learn Hebrew and read it. I'm pretty sure this "Asherah" is one of the many gods people are told not to worship.


That's just it, right there. Told not to worship another God or Goddess? Told by whom? By a certain God? Jesus say that, did he? And pray tell how does one know this particular God is the real deal? The way I see it, I am an American, and have freedom of religion. I can worship any God I wish to, without people damning me for it. Except they do damn me for it. You should hear some of the insults I have heard hurled at any kind of Goddess. In my town the Christians are like a giant cult, they all think and act the same, and if it is not Jesus, then it's Satan, and there is nothing else to choose from. I tell someone I worship a Goddess, and I am labeled satanic and demonic. Everything written before, and after the Bible is lies and more lies. Satan's lies. Christians will never accept that there is a Divine Feminine presence, or that their God has such an evil thing as a wife.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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I don't know if this is watchable outside of the UK, but the following link should be to the full episode on the BBC website. It makes an interesting argument, once you get past the occasional tabloid-headline-type comment and repetition.

www.bbc.co.uk... ied_Secrets_Did_God_Have_a_Wife/

Edit: The link didn't seem to work, you may need to copy and paste the link below into your browser
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zw3fl/Bibles_Buried_Secrets_Did_God_Have_a_Wife


The basic suggestion seems to be that the Judaic God is the same as the head of the pantheon of Gods worshipped by the Canaans, "El". There are several references in the Torah to God and a number of lesser (but still divine) beings, including "his Asharah". Asharah was the name of the wife of the Canaan god, El.

There also seems to be the suggestion that the pantheon of Canaan (El and his minor gods) is translated into God and his angels, to support a monotheistic approach.
edit on 24-3-2011 by EvillerBob because: (no reason given)

edit on 24-3-2011 by EvillerBob because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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If I remember correctly the Sophia as defined by the Gnostics was the feminine duality of God. The wisdom.

The Bible has been edited and defined to fit a purpose. Keeping humanity at odds with one another. If we could only see the original books that have been edited I am sure it would paint a much clearer picture of not only our purpose but our origins. This was not to be.

I fully respect anyone's rights to practice whatever religion they believe but take offense to Christians who will not even admit the Bible has been edited numerous times, books omitted because the RCC felt it should be so. It is a matter of historical record this happened. How dare they and why did they dare change one syllable of God's divine word? I refuse to accept this as one of the many mysteries we must never question.

The power of the female was been viewed a threat since Eve tempted Adam with the apple. The sacred feminine was oppressed in the Bible because women were considered beneath men.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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She wasn't edited out of the books of the Bible. She's still there. The Tanakh, aka old testament to Christians, outlines a conflict between those who worshipped the so called Queen of Heaven and the Prophets. The books of the Prophets show that much of ancient Israel and Judah worshipped this Queen of Heaven. The issue is that the Prophets, who were devout monotheists, fought against it. It doesn't hide the fact that many people worshipped her.

When the Jews returned from Persia (5th-6th century BC) under Ezra/ Zerubbabel/Nehemiah, Queen of Heaven worship was mostly eradictated. It was dead by the time of John the Baptist and Jesus.

It has nothing to do with the Vatican. The purification began under Ezra, Zerubbabel, and Nehemiah roughly 500 years before Christianity even existed.

Instead, Christianity in fact revived the worship of the Queen of Heaven in the 5th century CE at the Council of Ephesus, when they declared Mary the Mater Dei (Mother of G-d) and Regina Coeli (Queen of Heaven).

In the 16th century CE, Protestant churches rejected the worship of Mary. In modern times many Christians still venerate the Queen of Heaven, but others follow a more fundamentalist approach in many ways that mirrors the same conflict in the books of the Prophets.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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That's just it, right there. Told not to worship another God or Goddess? Told by whom? By a certain God? Jesus say that, did he? And pray tell how does one know this particular God is the real deal? The way I see it, I am an American, and have freedom of religion. I can worship any God I wish to, without people damning me for it. Except they do damn me for it. You should hear some of the insults I have heard hurled at any kind of Goddess. In my town the Christians are like a giant cult, they all think and act the same, and if it is not Jesus, then it's Satan, and there is nothing else to choose from. I tell someone I worship a Goddess, and I am labeled satanic and demonic. Everything written before, and after the Bible is lies and more lies. Satan's lies. Christians will never accept that there is a Divine Feminine presence, or that their God has such an evil thing as a wife.


The mitzvah, or commandment, against polytheism is in the Torah, aka the books of Moses. It really only applies the House of Israel and Ger Toshav (Gentiles accepted into Israel).

The last apart about not accepting a divine feminine presence isn't exactly true.

The Bible actually mentions a feminine divine aspect, the Shekinah. The issue is the Shekinah is an aspect of G-d, not a different god. Its not G-d's wife, mother, or queen of heaven. Its an aspect or facet. A number of Protestant Christians recognize the Holy Spirit and the Shekinah as the same facet. There is a similar concept in some schools of Hinduism, where Shakti is an aspect or facet of the Brahman.

Most, if not all Jews, recognize the Shekinah as the feminine aspect of G-d, but do not make it into an independent being to be worshipped.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 12:12 PM
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Friend, I stand corrected in your case. The ones i was talking about are my neighbors. They have never read the Bible, they just believe everything the preacher says. Many times in a local forum I have posted things taken directly from the Bible, and been called a liar. My step son was told, when he mentioned that he meditated, that it was a mortal sin, and that he was going to Hell. He is 9 years old.




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