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*MUST READ*: Radical Ideas of the Universe. Physics is on the wrong road. by unknown website

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Some of you may have come across the website called: armageddonconspiracy.co.uk... but couldn't be bothered to read all of it as it contains so much information - whether truth or lies.
I was particularly interested in some of the "scientific" ideas that the website has on the whole universe. It makes really bold claims that current physics is going down the wrong path and that String theory is a dead end.
Theres literally so many ideas and proofs on that website on how the universe was formed, why is it expanding, why does dark energy exist, the dimensions of the universe, and wait for it - even claims that it has found a Grand Unified theory of Everything!
However bold these claims maybe I'll let you to decide and discuss but here are the main points it brings across:

-It claims that the Big Bang theory singularity (genesis point) and Black hole singularity are related to each other. It states that the Black hole singularity is the inverse/opposite of the Big Bang Theory singularity - the reason being in the Big Bang everything came out of nothing and in the Black hole everything is "sucked" into "nothing". It even defines this "nothing".
-It claims that the universe is 6 dimensional space-time with 3 real dimensions co-exiting with 3 imaginary dimensions. If you're wondering what are imaginary dimensions - they basically have NO dimensions. They are the complex numbers "i" when you square root a negative number. One thing i agree with the website is that photons have no dimensions, no mass and always travel at the same speed in whatever directions. In a photons frame of reference it has infinite speed and travels zero direction. Even uses Einstein's theory of Relativity to prove this.
-It basically states String Theory is a dead end and the number of dimensions in that theory is ridiculous.
- It claims Time is a vector quantity rather than scalar (we normally think that time only goes forward).
-It claims to have found a Grand Unified theory and its got something to do with r>=0. It states 0 and inifity should NOT be ignored and renormalised in physical equations as they are KEY to understanding the quantum physics etc.
-And the most radical idea i reckon is that it states God never existed. The universe created God! And that the universe can be said to be a perpetual energy device without violating ANY laws of physics.

It also contains explanations to the unexplained like Schrodingers Quantum Wave Equation, EPR paradox, Non-Locality, Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, Schrodingers Cat, Quantum Super positions, Quantum Tunelling, Quantum Entanglement. Pretty much all the fancy stuff.

Theres literally tons of information, proofs and arguments. Here are the main links on the website you should check out about the theories mentioned above (there are a million words on the website so these links should keep you on track!):

GENESIS SINGULARITY
ZERO AND INFINITY
THE IMAGINARY DIMENSION
THE INCOMPLETENESS THEOREM

(some reason the extension links wont work so you have to go to the main page. Beware of the annoying music! armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...)

And lastly, it makes the boldest claims of all: it challenges ANY scientist to disprove/prove the theories on the website as long its with mathematical proofs - not mere arguments of current mainstream understanding of physics.

A real mind f*** of a read guys!
edit on 23-3-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: nrg




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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good post, I've been wanting to put something like this up for a while, but could not find the words or time.

Congrats. S&F



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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This does sound extremely interesting, and I intend to look into it when I have a little more time. I'm drive-by commentating right now, as I have 3 papers to reluctantly edit. So I drop you with a point and a question.

Point: Not all science -- not even all mainstream science -- is going in the same direction. String Theory is not accepted or espoused by all major physicists, not by a longshot. It is just the predominant theory -- set of theories, more properly -- in the mainstream & vocal scientific community. It is not considered proved, and mainstream scientists worth their salt, including those who hold to it, would be ready to dispose of it were it clearly proven wrong.

Question: Are the proofs on this website thorough and convincing? It can be easy to claim that you have a unified theory of everything then throw up a whole bunch of symbols and numbers interspliced with some anecdotal New Age type babble. Do not simply believe it because it claims to prove it. Of course, I'm not saying that it's all wrong; I obviously have no idea since 1) i haven't read it and 2) I can get about half a step up from Newtonian proofs before I need a lot of ibuprofen. I'm just saying, be cautious.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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it's a mind f*k because it makes a lot more sense than that bullsh*t they teach in school and in church



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze


A real mind f*** of a read guys!
edit on 23-3-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: nrg


Hey there, I remember talking to you about the Illuminati section of the site, about three or four days ago, glad to see you branched off!

Well, you probably all ready saw this site before, but hey. Poop and butts. Star btw



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by Solasis
Question: Are the proofs on this website thorough and convincing? It can be easy to claim that you have a unified theory of everything then throw up a whole bunch of symbols and numbers interspliced with some anecdotal New Age type babble. Do not simply believe it because it claims to prove it. Of course, I'm not saying that it's all wrong; I obviously have no idea since 1) i haven't read it and 2) I can get about half a step up from Newtonian proofs before I need a lot of ibuprofen. I'm just saying, be cautious.


Believe it or not, it does have convincing proofs, arguments using equations and all that. It contains explanations to the unexplained like Schrodingers Quantum Wave Equation, EPR paradox, Non-Locality, Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, Schrodingers Cat, Quantum Super positions, Quantum Tunelling, Quantum Entanglement. Pretty much all the fancy stuff.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Its flawed. There was no big bang, and the only singularity, in this system being turned on, as energies, mc2, in the infinite universes are redesigned, recycled, and black holes are a part of this, the windows waste bucket, however, this is a holographic technology. And the big bang was really just turning on the set.



Infinite channels of space-time based on orbits and frequency astrals, inwards, possibly as small as a grain of sand. You can fit an infinite universe in a grain of sand or an atom. Infnity within and without all things and in all directions. Horton Hears a Who.

Metaphorically speaking because our dvd players/flatscreens and computers, even holograms are ant man tech compared to what the EU's, Extra Universals, Creators/Designers, our Family uses.

Take this, and add millions of years ahead and you have advanced milky way ETS, billions for some systems and a kazillion and you have EU.

Since there is No Time, for infinity has a measurement problem, and doesnt do singularities ,or it becomes finite and would end, and yet time is a concept, sequencing, order, and is based on orbits, if you programmed an AI bot to go through your day in 15 minutes, you would disappear from sight. To you, he would be standing still.

So I'm not sure they're watching the movie, its more like reading a book.
edit on 23-3-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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I just read "The Female conundrum" and was floored. I have had similar conversations with others and completely agree with the tone of the article. Im already looking forward to coming back to this site, even if its to appease my own lust for information.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Then sweet. I haven't been this excited about an unconventional approach to a scientific view of the universe since a few weeks after I first realized that science was revisable!



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Wow, this is a very interesting site! Looks like I've got some major slacking to do in terms of my work. I'm glad to hear this theory involves only six dimensions. Six is just such a solid number, especially in terms of it's relevance to nature. It makes far more sense than eleven.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Absolutely brilliant link:

I'm currently reading this.

armageddonconspiracy.co.uk...(2251658).htm

Read the first 2 points. Brilliant.

It correctly slams both the unquestioning loyalties of the feverishly religious who succomb to the notion of a fear inducing God and then on the 2nd point also attacks the scientists who abandoned the notion of free will, thought and the mind. And how Science has abandoned it's Philosophical roots.

Amazing. Couldn't agree more




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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While the info on this subject is interesting, it almost seems like your reply is to commercialized to promote the site?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
While the info on this subject is interesting, it almost seems like your reply is to commercialized to promote the site?


For all I know you may be a bot, programmed to discredit this website?

I jest




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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This site looks like viral marketing for hip hop artists.


second line.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
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This site looks like viral marketing for hip hop artists.


second line.


lol it could be.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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great looking site [in terms of info, i mean]

bookmarked



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by scojak
Wow, this is a very interesting site! Looks like I've got some major slacking to do in terms of my work. I'm glad to hear this theory involves only six dimensions. Six is just such a solid number, especially in terms of it's relevance to nature. It makes far more sense than eleven.


Yeah, i never really bought String theory. Its even practically not testable!
Scientists generally use a process called renormalization where they remove infinities in their equation en.wikipedia.org...

Thats basically like cutting the head of someone and trying to understand how the body works.
edit on 24-3-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: nrg



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Great find. Bookmarked and will slowly read little by little. So much info.

Also, you should bookmark its companion site. A lot of great reading there too.

the-movement.info...


edit on 3/25/2011 by GGEden because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by CasiusIgnoranze
Yeah, i never really bought String theory. Its even practically not testable!


Well, it's only practically not testable; it has made a few predictions that could be tested had we much better tech than we currently have. Much, MUCH better tech. There are also a few circumstantial elements to String Theory, as well as less Theory-OfEverything-Insisting formations of String theory, which can be tested. I looked this up after reading about Renormalization, so my head hurts even more, but some of it's covered on the Wikipedia page for String theory:
en.wikipedia.org...


Scientists generally use a process called renormalization where they remove infinities in their equation en.wikipedia.org...

Thats basically like cutting the head of someone and trying to understand how the body works.
edit on 24-3-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: nrg


From what I'm reading on the wikipedia page, I've gathered 3 things wrong or possibly wrong with what you've said. They are not actually observing/i] the infinite quantities that they remove from their equations. Their equations yield these infinite quantities, and that is the only reason to expect the infinites to occur. They use the assumption, countered sufficiently only by delving into non-scientific (but not anti-scientific) philosophies and metaphysics which demand the infinite in the universe. The only reason to accept these so far is based on personal preference and experience.

This i'm more uncertain about, but it sounds like they don't exactly use it to just remove infinities from their equations; they use it to keep from getting Infinite Results in circumstances where infinities don't make sense to our current understanding. They do this not through just some mathematical tricks, but by, er... taking into account "he contribution of virtual-particle loop effects to the physical constants themselves.", whatever exactly that means. "Among other things, these effects would include the quantum counterpart of the electromagnetic back-reaction that so vexed classical theorists of electromagnetism" Which i also don't know what it means, but it sounds like it's got a scientific basis and not just a "we don't like infinity!" basis.

I'm not saying it's not a problem to do it, I'm saying that from what I can figure out from what the article says it's not quite as head-chopping as you suggest. And even if it does turn out that Feynman and Salam and his kin are right about this being bad math/science, which I would suspect they are, it's still a fascinating effort, I guess!

But again, I'm not great at advanced science.

And yes, we all know that wikipedia's not a great source. But it'll do for some things for a while; it's good enough for that.

... Guess I better get reading this website now that I have all this time on my hands XD



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