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The second reason for taking the Second Passover is if the person were on a long
journey, as in a journey to a far country (Matt 25:14). The glorified Jesus is today in a far
country, but He will return to again eat the Passover in His Father’s kingdom (Matt
26:29). Thus, some disciples, possessing a little understanding, have reasoned that Jesus
will return on the second Passover, or a week before. But concerning His return, Jesus
said, ‘“As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those
days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and
swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man”’ (Matt 24:37-39). The flood
swept away those eating and drinking on the 17th day of the second month, the same day
that manna was first given. Noah entered the Ark on the 10th day, the day of selection.
Originally posted by loveguyI don’t really have anything to add, but speculation.
As we know, there is a star near Orion that scientists speculate could go bye-bye-or become a neutron star or something like that…maybe soon, maybe not? With all the events going-on today; like atmosphere retaining radioactive particles and strange gases. Earth-Quakes and Wars, and stuff. Suppose our atmosphere becomes like a bulb of phosphor, the Star explodes-igniting our atmosphere. Yet, because of prophesy, nobody dies? Or do we? Because "that generation" will not die or however correctly written ...
No. Nobody knows when the Day of the Lord begins and that includes you. ;0) I have made links for your long quotes to save space in this reply:
No. Your statement above says "I can tell you that," i.e., when the Day of the Lord starts and one statement later we see "... it should start on ...". Please make up my mind.
We agree that John the Baptist is the Earthly Messiah and Christ is the Heavenly Messiah (USMB topic), so we agree on something.
One problem with your hypothesis is that the curse was to come specifically upon 'the land,' i.e., "so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse." The Speaker of the prophecy is the Lord God speaking of "Moses My servant" (Mal. 4:4) and of His Coming with blessing 'or' curse. The land continued to do just fine, but Israel as a nation committed the 'transgression' (Rom. 11:11) that caused the Kingdom Bride to be 'cut off' (Rev. 20:4 = Peter, John, James = Church #1), so the Body of Christ could be formed in the first of two 'restoration' (Acts 3:21) times. In other words, God has already baked Israel's transgression (Matt. 17:12) into the cake and the special people is now being taken from among the Gentiles (Acts 15:14) by obeying our gospel for the last 2000 years. However, God's original plan to gather a mature Kingdom Bride was placed on the back burner, until this current mystery time is complete and THEN Elijah will return to restore all things and fulfill Malachi 4:5-6 and Matthew 17:10-11 as the prophet of Acts 3:22-23, so the Lord God does not return and smite the land with a curse.
A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route.... hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country." (The Innocents Abroad, p. 361-362)
Jesus Christ knows the OT better than anyone here and the 'Son' has no idea when the Day of the Lord begins like the 'angels' and everybody else. Matt 24:34-36. Your commentary includes many mentions of the 'curse' without designating who or what is the receiver of that curse, which in this case is the 'land.'
Now we are getting somewhere. David their king is the same 'David' of Eze. 34:23-25 who sits upon the throne throughout the coming Day of the Lord in the Kingdom of God 'on earth AS IT IS in heaven.' Most people fail to realize that Christ's Throne is in heaven (2Tim. 4:18 = topic).
Hold your horses for one minute. If you are going to quote half a chapter of Scripture to make a point, then please provide an equal or greater amount of commentary. Quoting chapter after chapter to give three short sentences of explanation does nothing to make your case. The fatal flaw in your interpretation is found over in the New Testament that renders your entire argument false:
Paul describes his insight into 'the mystery' (Eph. 3:3) to the Ephesians and Colossians with references in other Epistles about information that the OT Prophets simply were never given to see. Our gospel (#2) is according to the revelation of the mystery like the details of our mystery church as the Body of Christ, our mystery translation to immortality (1Cor. 15:51-53) and gathering to the Lord (1Thes. 4:15-17), which also includes this entire 2000 Year Mystery Time itself! The OT prophets that you want to use as sources of information about our mystery time simply could not make the predictions you suggest, because from their perspective this 2000-year period never happens. And then you must prescribe precisely 2000 years for your calculations for the conclusions to mean anything.
Daniel and Christ can tell you the precise events leading up to the end of the age, but NOBODY but the Father knows when the Day of the Lord 'begins' and that includes you and everyone else here; even the son of man.
There is another way to interpret everything you have presented and a way to make application to people living today. Jesus Christ testifies that John the Baptist is Elijah (Matt. 11:13-14), but John says "No." John 1:20-21. So who is lying? The answer is neither, because John the Baptist is Elijah and David and Abraham and Joshua and the coming 'prophet' of Acts 3:22-23, because all of these people are 'skins' (Gen. 3:21) for your father Adam. Noah and Sarah, Moses and Bathsheba are all 'skins' for your mother Eve, because Adam and Eve are the two olive trees that testify before the Lord of the whole earth. Zech. 4:11-14. They are the only two exceptions to the rule of Hebrews 9:27 and the coming 'prophet' is Adam 'and' Eve combined together in one 'man from god' (like John the Baptist = John 1:6); just like Adam in Genesis 2:7 with Eve "IN" him. This 2000 Year Mystery Time is a 'double portion' of the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, which means the testimony of the 'two witnesses' (Rev. 11 = Adam and Eve too) is doubled to be seven years that end this mystery time. In other words, Adam and Eve incarnate in a human skin has been testifying on this Earth since 2003 and 2004 to build up the Body of Christ 'and' (more importantly) to be 'recognized.'
Your entire argument is based upon the fact that John the Baptist was not 'recognized' (Matt. 17:12) so that the sons of men did to their own father and mother anything they wished; and to the point that John's head was served up on a platter over the single dance from the daughter of an adulterous and incestuous King and his sister (Herod and Herodias). John the Baptist was the 'king' and the 'messiah' and the 'anointed of God,' but Israel's sin was not to recognize him; but Christ says he is coming again (Matt. 17:10-11). The son of man has been testifying since 2003 and 2004 and describing the mysteries of God free of charge and has not been recognized ... again. The 'curse' that is coming upon the 'land' and the whole earth is coming with the brown dwarf star and we will learn who is prepared to survive to see the coming Kingdom of God on the earth. Yeah, yeah, the son of man has a demon and has heard that before ..
Originally posted by ntechObviously you are not an easy critic to satisfy are you? But I'll give it a try.
Originally posted by ntechExact calendar date as in May 15 2028? Not exactly. The record from the first century AD is simply not that accurate. All we really know is that the ministry of Jesus Christ happened in the 20's to early 30's AD. And the death of John the Baptist happened during it.
Originally posted by ntechHowever based on the fig tree prophecy and that Israel became a nation on May 15th 1948 I believe I can make the following claim safely. The Day of the Lord should start no later than May 15th 2028.
Originally posted by ntechHowever it could happen several years earlier. Based on a 80 year lifetime of the generation in question.
"Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see ALL THESE THINGS [Matt. 24:3-29], recognize that He is near, right at the door [Matt. 24:30-31]. "Truly I say to you, this generation WILL NOT pass away until all these things take place." Matthew 24:32-34.
Originally posted by ntechAnd that is based on Psalm 90-10 and a careful analysis of Matthew 24.
No sir. I already know that nobody knows the time that the Day of the Lord begins, because the coming Day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night (1Thes. 5:2). Scripture is very clear, but many choose to follow other interpretations ...
Any dates provided by men for the start of the Day of the Lord are also inaccurate. That is the point of my combined statements on this topic. ;0)
That certainly narrows down the prediction window. All a man must do to make God's Word (1Thes. 5:2) a complete lie is add 80 years to May 15, 1948! Then the Day of the Lord does not come as a thief in the night, but everyone can see that "Lord's Day" (Rev. 1:10) coming. You must realize that Paul connects our gathering to the Lord (1Thes. 4:15-17) directly to the start of the 'Day of the Lord' (2Thes. 2:1-2), which means your formula also predicts the time of our Rapture.
I was unaware the the people living in Peter's day had such long lifespans, so that generations extended out to 80 years. One problem with your hypothesis is that Christ's words do nothing to suggest any specific time at all. Christ just explained all the signs that would take place leading up to the 'end of the age' starting in Matthew 24:3 and to Matt. 24:31 to then say:
Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see ALL THESE THINGS [Matt. 24:3-29], recognize that He is near, right at the door [Matt. 24:30-31]. "Truly I say to you, this generation WILL NOT pass away until all these things take place." Matthew 24:32-34.
Jesus Christ is NOT giving out any times or making any specific predictions about 'this generation' living any number of years. He is saying that the generation living to see the 'signs' of Matthew 24:3-29 will also see the Son of Man coming on the clouds at the END OF THE AGE. Now go back to Matthew 24:3 and read those four words again. The Son of Man makes His appearance at the ... END ... OF ... THE ... AGE, which is the END of the Day of the Lord and not the 'start' that began 1000 years EARLIER, which is what this topic is all about.