Public enemy number one: Organised Religion
This is where we need to begin, To uncover the truth behind the bigger pitcure that is religion..
This thread is not intended to offend anyone..I just want to shed some light on one of the worlds biggest, and arguably most controversial
In the first part of this thread I will show you the true origns of Jesus Christ..
Background material about Yeshua of Nazareth
He is commonly referred to as Jesus Christ, although Yeshua or Joshua would be a more accurate name. "Christ" is not his last name; it is simply the
Greek word for "Messiah," or "anointed one."
Theologians have discovered about 50 gospels which were widely used by Jewish Christian, Pauline Christian and Gnostic groups within the early
Christian movement. Only four of these were chosen by the surviving group -- often called Pauline Christianity because of its basis in the teachings
of Paul. It was these four that were included in the Bible.
Those four Gospels describe Jesus as An observant Jew, An itinerant native healer, An exorcist, A Jewish prophet, specially adopted by God, A
magician, A rabbi/teacher who followed the liberal school of Jewish philosophy, A god-man who is Lord and Savior,
Yeshua is said to have been born in what are now the occupied territories -- formerly called Palestine - circa 4 to 7 BCE. Two of the Gospels say that
Yeshua was born of a virgin; John seems to deny the possibility, and Mark is silent on the virgin birth.
Yeshua's ministry lasted for one year largely in the Gallilee (according to the Gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke) or a three year largely in Judea
(according to the Gospel of John) ministry, starting when he was about 30 years old.
Most Christians believe that he was executed by the Roman occupying army, visited the underworld, was resurrected, spent either one or 40 days with
his disciples (Gospel sources differ), and then ascended to heaven.
Most Christian denominations view Jesus as God, and as the Son of God, the second person in the Trinity. Muslims view him as a great prophet, second
only to Muhammad. They believe that God is indivisible and that the Trinity concept is perhaps the greatest blasphemy one can believe in.
Many evangelical Christians view the four Gospels and the rest of books in the Bible as being inerrant and that their authors were inspired by God.
The Gospels and other passages in the Bible are mostly interpreted literally, unless this is obviously not intended.
Background material about Horus
Horus is one of the oldest and most significant deities in the Ancient Egyptian religion, who was worshipped from at least the late Predynastic period
through to Greco-Roman times. Different forms of Horus are recorded in history and these are treated as distinct gods by Egyptologists. These various
forms may possibly be different perceptions of the same multi-layered deity in which certain attributes or syncretic relationships are emphasized, not
necessarily in opposition but complementary to one another, consistent with how the Ancient Egyptians viewed the multiple facets of reality.
He was worshipped thousands of years before the first century CE -- the time when Jesus was ministering in the Galilee and/or Judea Horus was often
represented as a stylized eye symbol, symbolizing the eye of a falcon. He was also presented "in the shape of a sparrow hawk or as a man"
He was considered to be the son of two major Egyptian deities: the God Osirus and and the Goddess Isis. In adulthood,
He avenged his father's murder, and became recognized as the God of civil order and justice. Each of the Egyptian pharaohs were believed to be the
living embodiment -- an incarnation -- of Horus.
similarities between Jesus and Horus
There are an amazing number of identical or very similar life events, characteristics, and teachings shared by Horus and Yeshua of Nazareth (Jesus
Christ). Horus was considered a god in ancient Egypt.
Jesus was considered A Jewish prophet by Jewish Christians in the first century CE, As a man-god by later Christians, and As history's second
greatest prophet by Muslims.
If these points of similarity were between Horus and any other historical Jewish individual -- for example Pilate, the Procurator of Judea -- then
there would be universal agreement that someone in ancient times had simply copied elements of Horus' story and falsely attributed them to Pilate.
That is, both life stories would be myths -- events that never happened but which have great spiritual significance.
But Pilate was not involved. The first century CE individual was Yeshua of Nazareth! His story is found documented in in the Christian Scriptures --
the New Testament of the Bible.
How these points of coincidence are interpreted depends upon one's view of the Bible..
If it is viewed as an inerrant book, free of error, whose authors were inspired by God, then one would suspect that a massive fraud must have taken
place. The events really formed part of Jesus' life because the Bible is free of error. Somehow the events were also attributed to Horus in Egypt for
many centuries before Jesus' birth.
If the Bible is viewed as a historical document, like other cultures' holy books, then it is obvious that events in
Jesus' life were copied from stories that had been associated with Horus for many centuries before Jesus' birth. The events are fictional. Probably
none actually happened in reality.
After removing these myths from the Gospel, there would be not much left of the stories other than an an account of:
- An exceptional Jewish itinerate preacher and native healer who had an uneventful birth,
- Who, at the age of about 35 gathered a small group of followers and toured the Galilee,
- Spread a type of reform Judaism that matched the teachings of Hillel from the first century BCE,
- Was convicted of aggravated assault in the Jerusalem temple,
- Was routinely executed for treason by the occupying Roman army, along with thousands of others in the first century CE.
There is a near consensus that Yeshua was born circa 4 to 7 BCE. By that time, stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries
before. If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the myths and legends of Horus that were incorporated
into Jesus' biography, not vice-versa.
Tom Harpur, an author, journalist, Anglican priest, and theologian, studied the works of three authors specialized in ancient Egyptian religion:
Godfrey Higgins (1771-1834), Gerald Massey (1828-1907) and Alvin Boyd Kuhn (1880-1963).
Harpur incorporated some of their findings into his book "Pagan Christ." 1 He argued that all of the essential ideas of both Judaism and
Christianity came primarily from Egyptian religion. Harpur writes, in his book:
"[Author Gerald] Massey discovered nearly two hundred instances of immediate correspondence between the mythical
Egyptian material and the allegedly historical Christian writings about Jesus. Horus indeed was the archetypal Pagan Christ." 2
Here is a list of life events for both Horus and Jesus
They were both conceived by a virgin
Both of there Foster father's ancestry, was of royal descent
Horus Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris.
Jesus Father: Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit)
Horus Mother: Isis-Meri
Jesus Mother: Miriam (now often referred to as Mary)
Horus Foster father: Seb, (a.k.a. Jo-Seph)
Jesus Foster father: Joseph
Horus birth location: In a cave
Jesus: birth location: In a cave or stable
Horus Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother
Jesus Annunciation: By an angel to Miriam, his mother
Horus Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star
Jesus Birth heralded by: An unidentified "star in the East
Horus Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about
DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human.
Jesus Birth date: Born during the fall. However, his birth date is now celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the
birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.
Both birth announcments were giving by angels.
Both Birth witnesses were shepherds
Horus Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities.
Jesus Later witnesses to birth: An unknown number of wise men. they are said to have brought three gifts; thus the legend grew that there were three
Horus Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered.
Jesus Death threat during infancy: Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
How Horus threat was handled: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child."
How Jesus Threat was handled: An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
Horus Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored.
Jesus Rite of passage ritual: Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual.
Both were at the age of 12 for the ritual.
Both have a Break in life history between the ages of 12 and 30.
Horus Baptism location: In the river Eridanus.
Jesus Baptism location: In the river Jordan.
Both were at the age of 30 for the baptism.
Horus was Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser.
Jesus was Baptised by: John the Baptist, a.k.a. John the Baptist.
Both baptiser's were beheaded.
For more comparisons of life events please visit this link.
So now that you know the true history of Jesus Christ, lets move on to part two..
Religion: Social control.
religions were “created” by men or divine power to control the humanity. Otherwise, we as humans would have done things that were socially
unacceptable. Religion in the past was an inseparable instrument of the state and law.
Religious traditions and beliefs were used to make laws and implement them on people. It was required in the past because otherwise humans would not
have any other reasons to follow the state mandated laws. At this moment however, we do not need religion into state because we understand the value
of the state and laws and the reasons for following them. We do not need a divine endorsements on our leaders because we “elect” these leaders
into power. We have a system of state but in the past we did not have it..
So you see religion was created as a tool, to control people Both in good and bad ways.. This control using religion was required in the past and for
the most part is still used today..
I wonder, When was the last time you swore on a holy bible ? Or when was the last time you swore to god ?..Now let me ask you did anything happing ?
NO! You were not struck down by lightning for lying or, for any other reason..
The way i see it is this, The lightning being symbolic for the strking down of the judges hammer,to issue YOU a "proper" punishment.
Now to give credit were credit is due: