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Voices of Palestine

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by lpowell0627

Other than further dividing the line between pro- and con- Israel members on this site, what exactly do you hope to accomplish?


I am hoping to prove to a friend of mine, who wont believe it, that the majority of people are clueless about whats happening in the Mideast and what Palestinians really think. Thanks to the replies in this thread I have been able to prove it to him.




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
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Most of us feel sick when threads like this come along. for it's sheer ignorance over the facts


Again, which of the quotes is non-factual?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
these STUPID israelis


I see you can barely contain your hatred. But can you back up your claim that those quotes are untrue? At least the Hamas admit they are true while the apologists still deny it.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by h0rror
PS: I found a cartoon picture too like you



At least you took the challenge presented in the OP, instead of denying its factualness. Kudos to you.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth


And even though I believe it's been covered on ats before, here is a link to the Palestinian Youth Manifesto. www.citizenorange.com... straight from the horse's mouth, and they don't sound like terrorists to me.


Those Gazan youth sound like a voice of reason compared to their parents.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth


But Hamas does not represent all Palestinians, nor does everyone in the gaza support Hamas.


The Hamas are the elected Government of Gaza. They represent their people.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth

So....how popular is he? I'd think there would be more info and more recent info about him.


How popular is the religious leader, the founder, the current leader of their Government? For them: the most popular. But the people here are not familiar with the Palestinian leadership. They prefer knee-jerk responses to investigation.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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So I take it you're a jewish religious extremist (or maybe christian) who says that Israel will spread from the nile to the euphrates one day. (just judging by your avatar).

How is this going to happen? Where are these "evil terrorists" that are in the way of these "settlers" (aw sweet nice little settlers) going to go?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
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Most of us feel sick when threads like this come along. for it's sheer ignorance over the facts


Again, which of the quotes is non-factual?


It's not about whether they are factual or not, it's about how much weight they carry, how many people espouse them and last but not by any means least why those views are held by anyone.

Israel is yet another victim, as more so are the Palestinians of deliberate bad/corrupt border drawing by the collapsing British Empire, every border we drew was crap, divisive and designed to cause problems for those who had to live within those boundaries, look around the mid East, Africa and the benighted Indian Sub Continent for further evidence to the veracity of my views.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong
So I take it you're a jewish religious extremist (or maybe christian)


Are people who are interested in geopolitical facts religious extremists and racists? Where do they teach this garbage`?

Point out which of the OPs statements is untrue or stop trolling.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by mayabong
So I take it you're a jewish religious extremist (or maybe christian)


Are people who are interested in geopolitical facts religious extremists and racists? Where do they teach this garbage`?

Point out which of the OPs statements is untrue or stop trolling.


I didn't think you could answer that.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

How popular is the religious leader, the founder, the current leader of their Government? For them: the most popular. But the people here are not familiar with the Palestinian leadership. They prefer knee-jerk responses to investigation.


Ibrahim Mudayris (just to make sure we're talking about the same person) is not the founder or current leader of Hamas. I suppose he could be called a religious leader, he seems to be similar to the random t.v. televangelist and he was in charge of something called "The Association for learning the Quran by heart" not that I've ever heard of it or him until today, but google tells me that is his credential. Being as I had to use google to find out who he is, I doubt he is the MOST popular. Also, I find it odd that I did not find a single source that wasn't trying to expose the "evil" Palestinians and their evil leaders, not a single one that was unbiased or supported him. I find that rather odd, again for such a popular man.

Still though, I can't find anything about him after 2005. Did he simply disappear?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong
I didn't think you could answer that.


When I state facts that every educated grown-up knows and understands and Im called a religious extremist, racist, propagandist for it you know the state of delusion in our country is beyond repair. Really, beyond repair.And Im not here to repair it, just point it out. Thanks for your help.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Thepreye


It's not about whether they are factual or not,


You`ll understand that I stopped reading there.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth


Ibrahim Mudayris (just to make sure we're talking about the same person) is not the founder or current leader of Hamas. I suppose he could be called a religious leader,


The opening post quotes four Hamas leaders. Whats so difficult to understand about that? Stop obfuscating what this is about. This is about the Hamas main goal to eradicate Jews. And its a F-A-C-T that is espoused by the Hamas every day.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth

Still though, I can't find anything about him after 2005. Did he simply disappear?


I dont know why he does not appear in the media more often.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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I'm just saying that your avatar shows how biased and extreme you really are. Even if the Arabs were as nice as church mice. You would make them out to be terrorists anyways because they are in the way of this Nile to the Euphrates (idiotic) dream. Muslims killing jews because they kicked them out of their house is religious extremism. Jews killing muslims and kicking them out of their houses because their holy book says its their land, is just fighting terrorism.

Sorry if I seem uneducated here.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by mayabong
Even if the Arabs were as nice as church mice. You would make them out to be terrorists


Nonsense. We have the military power to wipe them off the map. Why havent we? Because we are human beings who have some sense and compassion. Guess what would happen if they had the power to wipe us off the map? They would. Right now all they have is the Internet, since sane outlets wont run their "stories".



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
these STUPID israelis


I see you can barely contain your hatred. But can you back up your claim that those quotes are untrue? At least the Hamas admit they are true while the apologists still deny it.


I am of Jewish descent, braniac. The land belongs to Palestinians. It was taken from them after ww2 because their bible says so and taken by force to this day. Think about that. Did you know that the people who sponsored Hitler and the holocaust are the very same people who made a state in Palestine called Israel?

Who funds the holocaust then says they are the victim and takse a country for the very people they killed and displaced while displacing yet another civilizations?. (The Palestinians).....


Why did the people who created Israel chose Palestine as their home?

Does Israel have a right to exists on Palestinian Land and why if so why?
edit on 23-3-2011 by Shadow Herder because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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As I posted before, they do it slowly but surely so the international world doesn't get into an uproar. Are you saying that these kind hearted Jews don't evict Arabs from their homes? Why is Israel building outside of their internationally recognized borders? Why do they make themselves out to be the victim when they are attacked on land that is outside of their borders?

Its pretty funny to watch someone make this seem ok.







 
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