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The Earth cannot be our source since we have surpassed the Earth in complexity.
Originally posted by LargeFries
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I'm really disappointed in your reply to this poster. You stated "I will prove" but you failed to deliver. I'm looking at this objectively, from a removed viewpoint. To see others blindly post you praise and agreement over sharing a personal religious view also does not lend support to your writing. There is difference between adding to the content of a thread, and being a cheering gallery of yes men.
This is not an attack, and I'm not stating beliefs for or against. I just feel you failed to prove.
NOTE: this is for the OP. I meant to reply 'on' another persons post, wherein you had replied tothem, but I see I hit the wrong button. I apologize.edit on 4/10/2011 by LargeFries because: added 'NOTE" cause i think i messed up my post by not hitting "Quote"
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The Earth cannot be our source since we have surpassed the Earth in complexity.
That's a very weird statement...complexity is in the eye of the beholder. DaVinci was brilliant, but if you showed him plans of a spaceshuttle, he'd be clueless and call it "too complex".
And when it comes down to it, we're all made of the same molecules, which are produced in stars without the intervention of a creator:
edit on 10-4-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
Life begins immediately on Earth after the crust forms and liquid water is present.
The oldest rocks that have fossils already contain fully formed life.
Quantum tunneling theory requires that space curves back in on itself and is super heavy. Objective evidence for God's self-revelation.
The properties of the universe cannot be established by random processes, as stated in Scientific American.
Properties of nature have exactly the values to sustain life.
This guy is really good.
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Exactly the values to sustain life, huh? If life was the goal, it's a giant failure given that most of the universe would kill lifeforms we know of.
This guy is really good.
...at lying and spreading misinformation, yes.
edit on 11-4-2011 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)
And yet, here we are, protected by the gravitational pull of Saturn and Jupiter.
Protected by the atmosphere. Protected by the magnetosphere. Protected by our distance to the sun. Protected by the moon. Protected from the solar wind. Protected by climate. Protected by water. Blessed with fine tuning. Gravitational constant, ratio of electrons:protons, ratio of electromagnetic force, expansion rate of the universe, mass of the universe, cosmological constant. And, protected by our location in the galaxy.
“All the evidence available in the biological sciences supports the core proposition of traditional natural theology– that the cosmos is a specially designed whole with life and mankind as its fundamental goal and purpose, a whole in which all facets of reality, from the size of galaxies to the thermal capacity of water, have their meaning and explanation in this central fact.” (Michael Denton, Nature’s Destiny, p. 389)
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
More proof. Rebirth of the nation of Israel.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:
This is the single biggest event in our world today
"Lost a planet, Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing... how embarrassing."
"Like fire across the galaxy, the Clone Wars spread. In league with the wicked Count Dooku more and more planets slip. Upon the Jedi Knights falls the duty to lead the newly formed Army of the Republic."
"Careful you must be when sensing the future, Anakin. The fear of loss is a path to the dark side."
"Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by SuperiorEd
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
More proof. Rebirth of the nation of Israel.
...um...no, that's not proof of any creative act. It's an act of a group which managed to cling on culturally after a long diaspora constantly obsessing over it as a cultural act to the point where they worked as hard as possible to get it and then, due to one of the most horrible atrocities enacted by humanity (if not the most), gaining a piece of land back again as a way of compensating a group that had been reduced by nearly half. The Jews were already trying to regain that land prior to the holocaust, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Furthermore, in Matthew 24 Jesus is making a prophecy about things he is claiming will happen to the people he is talking to, in no uncertain terms is he talking about things that will occur within the next 50ish years (and even 50 years is generous considering how short lifespans were back then).
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Who is he talking to? He's talking to people of his time. And no, the reference to the fig tree is not Israel...
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:
Why did he say that? Oh, because he explained how the people who he is talking to will realize the world is about to end.
Jesus was wrong on this, why is it that Christians bring up the failed prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24 as proof of anything?edit on 12/4/11 by madnessinmysoul because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by SuperiorEd
This is the single biggest event in our world today
- Economic crisis
- Developing nations catching up to developed nations (China vs US vs India vs ...)
- Japanese tsunami
- Wars in Iraq/Afghanistan
- Uprising of the people in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Bahrain, etc
- Oceans being overfished which will cause a giant problem for billions of people in the future
- Water shortage
- Rising sea levels flooding entire countries (Bangladesh and Maldives)
- 6.6mil children dying in Africa every year...more deaths than the holocaust!!
All more important or significant (because it impacts many more people) than the country of Israel
Also, I'm happy madness is back, I started losing my patience and had to let South Park videos speak for me
People have claimed the "end is near" for thousands of years...we're still waiting...even though it's always supposed to happen soon(TM)
Also found a hilarious quote by Stephen Colbert...
"How to disprove evolution you ask? Easy! Take a glass of water, throw in a live mouse, put a lid on it...and come back half an hour later. If it hasn't turned into a dolphin, you disproved evolution!"
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by SuperiorEd
All the examples I listed can be perfectly explained with rationality and logic...no magic creator required. Hell, even the wars we are in are less worse than the world wars, and the end didn't come then either
What he is referring to is an age of 7000 years.