I will open with a quote from an article I recently wrote:

"The world contains many creeds and faiths, but one central truth should not be overlooked: The flow of all we know is made up of many branches from the same stream, a great river divided many times over. The raging torrent of this river may be blocked by disbelief, but the main body of the flow emanating from the source will never be confined in one place for long. Realizing the initial first cause that governs the universe is the preliminary step for navigating the stream. All scholarship throughout history is a struggle against this flowing current as it meanders its way back to the original spring of creation.

As we each make our way through this stream of education for the soul, the direction of current we follow, and the choice of branches we take, will determine our progress as we drift through our brief lives. The three teachers of choice, chance and the actions of others uniquely influence the journey of each soul. Although we do not always have control over choice, we can clearly see that chance is motivated by providence—the guiding hand of God. Providence ultimately defines all outcomes in an effort to influences choice in the direction of truth. If providence can be seen as shaping our choices by spiritual influence, then recognizing the purpose of these influences should be our primary concern in life. Purpose will be unique to each member of the human family."

Here's the reason for this thread: I a hear many people profess science and reason as an excuse to doubt a Creator. Let me give you a few reasons to believe in the possibility that God is all He claims. I don't ask you to believe me, just consider the possibility.

Reason 1
After less than 100 years with computers, mankind has created his own virtual reality by using information and energy, which works by a process of governing laws and procedures. What could we do with a billion more years of development? Could we step into the virtual environment? Do you think our creations would have a chance to keeping up with our progress compared to theirs? Do you think they could comprehend what is behind the veil of energy.

Reason 2
After a billion years of revisions to SIMS, would there be any difference between our reality and the one we create? Would both require information and energy? This question matters because we have essentially proved God possible by the work of our own hands. The probability can be readily demonstrated and is obvious for anyone with a scientific mindset.

Reason 3
Assuming we create consciousness like God in a virtual world of energy, would we limit our creations to some measurable stopping point? Would we allow it to learn lessons the hard way? Confucius said, "I hear I forget. I see I learn. I do and I understand." Would a billion years of learning lessons the hard way, for our species, provide the ultimate understanding in goodness, loving-kindness and altruism? Could we shake off our greed, lust, hate, malice, envy and arrogance if given the proper lessons from our own creator over time? Would a limit to our patience be set into the time sequence of the program?

Reason 4
Back to my previous article statement. No river flows above its source. This is obvious. Apart from conscious effort, nothing like consciousness can arise apart from some other conscious effort and choice. Does this preclude a God who always was and who will always be? Apart from observation of the spirit world and higher dimensions, it would be presumptuous of us to decide before we die and find out. Our own experience in this reality as creators should demonstrate that we are rising toward a source grater than ourselves. Even our own creations do not rise unless programmed to do so.

Reason 5
We are an obvious bio-mechanical robot with encoded programming and functioning at a nano level of engineering. Do I need to say more?

Conclusion:
We are the products of a loving God who has created more than a few planets with life. Take a look at the sky some night and ask yourself, "Does God have the experience needed to teach us the procedure for inheriting the universe and eternal life?" Can a program be saved, copied and placed in an updated computer? Is God capable of doing this through salvation from this reality?

Personally, I will give Him what is due: Faith, hope and love. That's all He has ever asked of me in this school of reality. Salvation is that simple.

Christ is the updated code you need to properly reboot. Better download Him and hit run before your system gets sent to recycling.

No point in trying to reason with atheist. They will agree and say "I see where your coming from" about any conspiracy theory alive on this site but one that has to do with God. You wasted your time. Your intelligence is simply too great to be used on these dipsticks.

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Your title is misleading. There isn't any "proof" here, just hearsay and conjecture. Proof for many (including myself) requires more than mere Platonic thought. People have been trying to reason out the existence of god for thousands of years, but it just doesn't work. If your interested, you might read up on Thomas Aquinas and his five logical proofs of god.

What is our purpose for living? An animal's purpose appears to be to find a mate and procreate. In order to accomplish this they have to stay alive long enough to find a mate, so they eat to stay alive. Eat and procreate.

What is human's purpose for living? It appears our purpose for living is to find a purpose for living. Funny how we try and find purpose for our lives...or assign a purpose for living. If we didnt, I think we would all go mad (crazy/insane).

Good morning.

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If the bible is true, and God created man in His image, then God is a very damaged and flawed deity.

While you get individual people who are totally godlike - and I am not joking here - I am referring to those people who daily risk their lives saving others, you also get the total arseholes of the world - murderers, abusers, and everyone who ever harms a child in any way.

So, was the creator saying that he or she is in need of the psych ward?

Because people are the best and the worst.

Having said that, I am a Jesus believer, but I do not rule out others who teach love, forgiveness, kindness and charity.

Yes. I have read Aquinas. The proof is here: Nothing rises above its source apart from conscious effort. Evolution and natural selection are totally dependent on inanimate matter rising to consciousness by accident. Think about how preposterous that assumption is. We cannot see or demonstrate this happening anywhere in nature apart form consciousness. There are NO exceptions. Find one. I dare you. All matter decays and recycles. Consciousness starts at nothing and builds toward a source. Science says the Earth is our source. How can this be if we are vastly more complex than the Earth? Because our source is vastly more complex than us and the Earth.

Originally posted by LessThanLethal
Your title is misleading. There isn't any "proof" here, just hearsay and conjecture. Proof for many (including myself) requires more than mere Platonic thought. People have been trying to reason out the existence of god for thousands of years, but it just doesn't work. If your interested, you might read up on Thomas Aquinas and his five logical proofs of god.

edit on 23-3-2011 by LessThanLethal because: My text color didn't show up right.