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Capitalism, the mafia game

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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do i have to spoon feed and dumb down everything for some of you sheeple who still believe in the system and want to sustain it as its crumbling,obviously it doesnt work,heres what works,build a society that encouages and teaches its people the truth and teaches them how to sustain their own family,and what u want from someone u barter,that way everyone has a job,instead of worrying about the right mask to put on in front of an employer, its all a sick game all of it is,our whole system from beginning till now,its all about one person having the upper hand and staying ahead like a nintendo game gathering points,its syrupy and gay




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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If scarcity was a true issue, why in the number of people alive today greater than in the past, and yet the average life is still better than in the past? You would think that if the production of wealth is a zero-sum game, the average life of people would be worse than in the past, simply because there are far more people to divide the resources with. Also, money is a currency to replace the barter system and has made exchanging goods and services in the market better for everyone.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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You keep pointing to the corporatist market of today and declaring it capitalism, then when someone defends capitalism you clownishly pretend as if they are stupid and you know what you are talking about. Of course the closed system of today can't sustain itself, as all closed systems tend towards entropy. The joke is that you're a corporatists wet dream...a useful idiot, because much like you, the corporatists hate capitalism also. The only difference is they know why and you don't have a clue.


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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:26 AM
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doesnt it make everyone worse off with the spoiled brats, the decadence and obesity and the disgustingly greedy ugly nature we live,i have the right to say this because i have lived off the grid and off the land before and i notice the difference,try it, its not easy by any means in this society but its all about survival instead of keeping score,ur living a game,a mask,a farce,its bigger than any human ideology or way of control, lifes literally a garden fools dig it



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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So, because of your totalitarian tendencies, you want to force everyone to live the lifestyle you approve of?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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no!! your sadly mistaking me,im simply encouraging people to search a deeper state of conciousness way past david icke and alex jones,it goes waay beyond that,im asking you to free you own souls and understand what its really about,its about daily experiences and love with friends and fam before u die,not the constant pursuit of fallacies and imaginary concepts like money and social class,doesnt each one of us wish we grew up in one spot,with that special someone and build a fam with them and continue on with the same culture and traditions family wise,well......goodbye to romance

everyones divided by proxy, im not,i try to keep the fabric in my own life tenured, i would even stand up for u all even though we have differences,but hey,we are all on the same sinking ship,why arent we patching the waterline, im not your enemy,im simply here to share my perspective and see yours and respond accordingly,were all humans,we accomplished great things,but it seems we accomplish chaos and destruction best,even though i dont know whoever reads this i have copassion for u,love u and wish the best for u



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:43 AM
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Not everyone wants to be enlightened or a monk. Why do you want to force them to be? Humans have free will, and coercing them is a mockery of that. Capitalism is for that reason what I think is the most ethical economic system.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:54 AM
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obviously your a huge fan of capitolism,and im a monk ha ha,fine,i understand,alot of people love to watch rap videos of puppets throwing around thousands out the back of caddys cuzz it looks cool while u got whole citys in turmoil thru lack of that type of opportunity, welll....... anyone with a PC and pinter can copy those notes and do that but u get thrown in prison for infringing on a copywrite,thats all the fed note is,its a gimmick,anywho, i think its entertaining to spend 2000 on a pound of weed and get 4000 out of it sure,its fun and u get to get high,everything else in capitolism applies to that formula,but what sux is when cats get so much that they corner(corporatize) the market and your independant opportunity goes out the window,they spend money to lobby the puppets(pres and politician) and u have to work under them because they passed a new bill saying u cant but they can,thats capitolism mafia,thats all im saying kcuf em bleed em



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:13 AM
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I suggest you read a few books on economics to rid yourself of the ignorance surrounding the issue. Corporatism is not capitalism. I have no idea WTF you're talking about when talking about weed or rap, so I'll leave it at that.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:32 AM
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As someone I respect on this site who always provides the strongest case for capitalism, can you answer a few questions.

If we have no regulation and a totally free market, how do you stop the formation of monopolies? How do you stop the buying up of the media that promotes the ideology of the capitalist owners of the media?

To me both Capitalism and Socialism can be successful ideologies, It's when human greed and power elites take over, both ideologies principles are corrupted.


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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:37 AM
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Thank You!!!!! at least someones outside of the jack in the box,others remain under the spell,they may understand the basic concept,but they will never see the evil and fallacies of human uglyness(political anything)



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:41 AM
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this is to your signature, let me refine it in my own words
do not pass judgement for each body derives its own experience, a humble character is a strong virtue, a non biased perspective is priceless



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:42 AM
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Hey Wood, it's nice to see you. Great question! Anti--trust laws are not regulation, they are the rules of the game. It is ironic that in the U.S. there are actually anti-trust laws in place, but instead what we get from those entrusted to enforce these anti-trust laws is crap about "too big to fail".

The difference between regulation, which are schemes that pretend that markets can be managed, and the rules of the game, such as anti-trust laws, is that there is no pretense in a prohibition of monopolies, nor is it a closing of the system, as monopolies, by their nature, are cartels that seek to close what is intrinsically supposed to be an open system.

Here is what I know, that under capitalism, both communism and socialism can exist, albeit within those communities that choose to implement such a system, but under the reverse capitalism would not be allowed to exist. This is just one of the many reasons I remain a staunch advocate of capitalism.

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In regards to your question about preventing people from buying up the media who in turn use this purchase to promote capitalism, in both the U.K. and the U.S. the "media" is heavily regulated through licensing schemes that actually cater to monopolies. These licensing schemes are gross abrogations and derogation's of free speech. Let the market handle the media, and under this freedom a variety of ideologies will flourish instead of what appears to be corporate media willingly acting as government shills, and the other way around.




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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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you sounded very poetic and well spoken about your conviction on capitalism, but you failed to explain your reason,so far ive explained the rhyme behind mine but your rhyme is mearly theatrical



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by CUJOCREEP
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you sounded very poetic and well spoken about your conviction on capitalism, but you failed to explain your reason,so far ive explained the rhyme behind mine but your rhyme is mearly theatrical


Translation for those who don't speak idiocy:

Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blather, blather, blather, yadda yadda yadda.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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so thats the best response u had,my only requirement is that you have a sensible argument instead of childish things,time to put them away and get real,we are having a debate,not a sand box convo get back on topic baby u had me goin lol



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by CUJOCREEP
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so thats the best response u had,my only requirement is that you have a sensible argument instead of childish things,time to put them away and get real,we are having a debate,not a sand box convo get back on topic baby u had me goin lol


I have done nothing but make sensible arguments. I explained the tenets to capitalism, of which do not exist in the heavily regulated markets under a Federal Reserve that imposes a fiat currency, and under a corporate society that does all it can to suppress competition, of which you ignored.

I have pointed to the fact that all closed systems tend towards entropy. I have acknowledged the system - the one you erroneously name capitalism, but which is demonstrably corporatism - can not sustain itself, and again you ignored this.

Look, you can put your fingers firmly in your ears and scream at the top of your lungs "La la la la la la I can't hear you la la la la la la", but it is simply just foolish to do so and then stop this nonsense long enough to insist that I haven't made any reasonable arguments.

If you do not like being treated like a fool, then stop acting like one.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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your an awesome linguist none the less i have to admit,but how has the original topic derailed into a match of wits,i can go all night,but lets make this easy on our selves,u toss me one of your personal self written quotes, and i will shoot you mine and whoever sounds the best lets agree and go to sleep lol,i look forward to more # shat with ya ur money baby lol



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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by the way just for interest purpose because i know another member on here but not by ATS name but knows who frequents this site is ur name scott



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by CUJOCREEP
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by the way just for interest purpose because i know another member on here but not by ATS name but knows who frequents this site is ur name scott


I am not Scott, but get some rest, and I will see you tomorrow, brother.




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