Sen. Joe Biden: War without Congressional Authorization is an Impeachable Offense

Too damned funny...

Way to go Joe!

But Obama has not made a declaration of war, so he is not outside the constitution...

But Obama has not made a declaration of war, so he is not outside the constitution...

That is true...

The President has powers that allow him to do what we're currently doing...

thanks for posting these, I'll be using them...

Yeah yeah yeah, illegal war and all.
If i decide to commit a crime, would i leave a trail back to my hideout?
Nope , i would'nt.
Neither would the president.
Barry is not gonna do something without a legal out.
Believe that.

Anyone trying to argue that this is an 'illegal war' is arguing semantics. They got the UN designation of 'no fly zone' for a reason.

EDIT: To add to this, look up how many drone attacks have taken place in 'non wars'.

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Exactly, plus, the UN has given the go ahead, so its not just him.

So the UN gets to decide it's ok to use US military force?

And when does a no-fly zone equate to bombing ground targets?

reply to post by loam

Because its many nations saying its for the best, yes.
And also, gadaffi was killing his citizens, so we needed to intervene, granted widespread bombing wasnt the BEST idea, but i digress.

Originally posted by loam

So the UN makes it ok?

And when does a no-fly zone equate to bombing ground targets?

When you have Anti Aircraft fire coming from the ground requires that those elements get taken out. Obviously you do not send in tanks to destroy Anti Aircraft armaments.

The United States has yet and probally will not make and decree an "Official Declearation Of War" as those require Congressional approval.

Yes, the UN is the Supranational body charged with keeping some sort of balance and stability on Earth so that one nation cannot run roughshot over another.

So, where the hell was this sentiment back in 2003 when that administration lied us into Iraq?
Politicians, the very definition of hypocrites!

reply to post by loam
look up the UN charter on no fly zones, it is just short saying all out war but with white gloves so no ones hand gets dirty, get it?

Originally posted by dethduck
So, where the hell was this sentiment back in 2003 when that administration lied us into Iraq?
Politicians, the very definition of hypocrites!

This is nothing like Iraq as the reasons for us engaging Libya now are different then Iraq as we are in there to aide and support the people in their effort to topple Ghadaffi.

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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
...decree an "Official Declearation Of War" as those require Congressional approval/

I see. The semantics are important to you, not the substance.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Yes, the UN is the Supranational body charged with keeping some sort of balance and stability on Earth so that one nation cannot run roughshot over another.

Are you serious?

Originally posted by loam
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Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
...decree an "Official Declearation Of War" as those require Congressional approval/

I see. The semantics are important to you, not the substance.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Yes, the UN is the Supranational body charged with keeping some sort of balance and stability on Earth so that one nation cannot run roughshot over another.

Are you serious?

It is becuase of the UN is why the US currently is not engaging either Iran or North Korea by now because if you got 6 of the top 8 militaries on Earth leveraging you means you can't do jack.

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we are in there to aide and support the people

I think I wet myself..

Originally posted by loam

So the UN gets to decide it ok to use US military force?

And when does a no-fly zone equate to bombing ground targets?

edit on 23-3-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)

Since they've been doing the same thing since the Bill Clinton presidency (possibly before), with drone attacks on many nations. Wow, people really need to look back before looking at today....

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is nothing like Iraq as the reasons for us engaging Libya now are different then Iraq as we are in there to aide and support the people in their effort to topple Ghadaffi.

Did you just arrive in this universe?

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
It is becuase of the UN is why the US currently is not engaging either Iran or North Korea by now because if you got 6 of the top 8 militaries on Earth leveraging you means you can't do jack.

Quoting this, because I just can't believe you believe this.

Really????

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1

 

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is nothing like Iraq as the reasons for us engaging Libya now are different then Iraq as we are in there to aide and support the people in their effort to topple Ghadaffi.

Did you just arrive in this universe?

edit on 23-3-2011 by loam because: (no reason given)

Iraq was sold to us on lies and everyone and their mother nowadays knows this. Libya is directly responsible for Pan Am Flt 103 and a dozens of unmaned drone attacks upon other nations. Libya is on US DHS and CIA's "State Sponsors of Terrorism" by providing key support to al Qaida, Hezbollah.

The only nation Hussien era Iraq launched against was Iran for which they got their snotbox rocked and Kuwait which started Desert Storm on 1991.