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Be gay all you want, just hush up about it!

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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reply to post by Serizawa
 


Right on. No problem there everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion.




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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This forum just goes to show that it's actual title has been proven by how hard the ATS community is going nuts over this.

Just saying.

Be gay all you want, just hush up about it!

funny kind of.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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You know what else is kind of funny...the fact that the gay people aren't the ones bringing it up you guys are

So hush up about it!



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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Just have one more thing to say......Someone i know told me that they thought that people who were gay have a disease that made them that way?....Imagine that.... Love is now being called a disease....ouy vey..



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by AmerikanDekline
reply to post by paratus
 


You know what else is kind of funny...the fact that the gay people aren't the ones bringing it up you guys are

So hush up about it!


hey I love you all, were all brothers and sisters here.

just a friendly bout of keyboard combat.

gotta get out of here im getting all worked up, going to watch dirty dancing and drink some wine coolers.




posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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I see no founded argument that homosexuality is not normal outside of the uneasy feeling you get. If it bothers children it is because children are very sensitive to how their parents react to something and will mimic it. That is also natural.

How on earth can something that has been going since the earliest of recorded history and presumably before based on early art and also exists among animals be unnatural?

The answer is it is not unnatural but your natural response is to say it is unnatural to justify your feelings of revulsion. Before you say it is unnatural perhaps a deep personal examination of your beliefs, where they come from, and why you hold them is in order.

I think upon close examination most will find they have been brainwashed by early well intentioned attempts to keep society in line by religion and other ruling class figures. It is common knowledge that most religions and states knew the best way to grow was to have their followers reproduce and raise children into the state / faith. When this is known it makes perfect sense to disapprove of anything that does not lead to people being baby machines to gain more power and influence.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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hahah sounds awesome. Have fun buddy.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Acceptance of homosexuality is following the same pattern as acceptance of race - it's gonna take a long time to stamp out the inequalities and fears, but generation by generation - YOU, the terrified few will get fewer and fewer until your as exinct as the dinosaurs and simply a footnote in history, an echo of a more primative time.


I think that homosexuals are accepted by society as a whole.

The problem isn't people being gay. The problem is that some homosexuals make such a big deal out of their homosexuality.

Why are some gays so proud of being gay and demand attention from others on that basis? I'm hetrosexual and I don't demand attention because of that.

Perhaps some gays are doing more harm than good to gay rights by being so militant and proud about being gay.

Really, who cares if someone is gay?

No one really, not until some gays insist on making their homosexuality a big issue to everyone else.

I think many people resent the demand for attention as if gays were special. They aren't. They are just gay.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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I'd add to this thread "Be American all you want, just hush up about it!"

The rest of the world doesn't need American ideals. The rest of the world's countries are unique in their own right and Americans shouldn't assume that their system is the best and can be applied all over the world, or that people even want it.

Look at what the American system has got you. No universal health care, massive personal debt, massive government debt, massive health problems across the nation.

You may be the richest country on the planet, but how can you be rich when you're in hock up to your eyeballs and have absolutely no idea how to pay it all off?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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haha thanks for your "addition" im sure there are plenty of american hater threads you can join

remember the american government and the american people are two totally different things

please focus your bashing in the right direction

contrary to popular belief many americans are good people and care about others

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
The problem isn't people being gay. The problem is that some homosexuals make such a big deal out of their homosexuality.


What's "the problem" with that? If someone wants to wear their sexuality on their sleeve, how does that harm you? That's a real question.


I'm hetrosexual and I don't demand attention because of that.


Plenty of people "demand" attention for plenty of reasons. There are boisterous people in every group. Why should gay people be any different?



I think many people resent the demand for attention as if gays were special. They aren't. They are just gay.


And Meryl Streep is just an actress. Yet she demanded attention for it.
And Michael Jackson was just a singer.
Elvis, too. Why the hell did he demand so much attention JUST because he was a singer?
Why does Bill Gates demand so much attention just because he can write software?
And why did MLK demand so much attention just because he was black?

To the OP: You can hate homosexuality all you want - Just hush up about it. I'm sick of hearing about it.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
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Originally posted by km1550

It's a shame this site has devolved to a refuge of intolerant, religious hate mongers.

What's worse is that the moderators tolerate the day after day onslaught of this nonsense .


The ATS staff isn't here to censor thoughts, opinions, or ideas. Our function is to facilitate and enable courteous discussion within the boundaries of the ATS Terms And Conditions Of Use. Contrary to much speculation regarding this issue - we are not thought police.


Hefficide
ATS Member and Moderator


From the T&C
abovetopsecret.com...


16) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, libelous, defamatory, hateful, intolerant, bigoted and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.


You see, if there were a thread (or bunch of posts) on here that questioned whether or not black people or women had the right to exist, or claimed they were "unnatural" or "sinners" or "immoral" simply because of skin color or gender, or a thread condemning interracial marriage and relationships as "unnatural" and "wrong" than I'm pretty sure (at least where I come from) that fits under racist / sexist / bigoted / intolerant / hateful etc.. However, I don't know why when it's gay-bashing, that this is considered acceptable here on ATS. Can you please elaborate? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I'm just really curious and confused as to why this is the case, why doesn't the rule above, given in the T&C also cover people of different sexual orientations?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Its quite funny with all the rhetoric a really important post got missed....


Originally posted by Nonvexatious
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What you say isn't true. In fact in the past the State has seen fit to outlaw homosexuality even when engaged in, in private, behind closed doors. People were imprisoned and lost their jobs for being gay in private. People were executed for being gay in private. People killed themselves when they were exposed as gay, having tried to keep it private. People were murdered and raped for being gay in private. People were given chemical castration and electroshock treatment for being gay in private. Some of this is still going on in some parts of the world.


It is a post that made me look at the issue anew. The flamboyant portion of the gay community that the media chooses to focus on actually hides the real issues at hand, it portrays an air of 'we are ok' but hides the fact that education isn't being used. We hear nothing of the past plights that many a gay person suffered greatly for or of the plights of many gay people today.

Maybe it is time to drop the carnival flavour and adopt a more Martin Luther King approach, educate us as to the reality of the situation.

Nonvexatious' original post is on page 4, deserves a star.
edit on 23-3-2011 by Jamjar because: signpost to quote



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Becoming
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I don't think he has a problem with the acutual discussion over equal rights. I believe his problem is the way some of them act in public. Alot of times it seems they are doing it for the shock value. Like the time a few gay people stormed inside the church during a service and a couple of women proceeded to give each other a nice big kiss on the altar.

I know most homosexuals are not like that, but like every group of people. Its the bad ones that makes the front pages.



Are you kidding me? I am always seeing public displays of affection from 'straight" people everywhere I go. Why is that acceptable? Makes me want to say the saying "I don't mind straight people as long as they act that way in public". I would like to just take a walk with my partner, hold her hand, and not be bullied or ridiculed for it.
Peace!
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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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The Bible. A book of God's unchanging word, that has helped to promote so much hate towards homosexuals.. Read the following, think about it, really think, then contemplate how foolish people who believe this rubbish really are.



Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath.. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted fan, Jim.

Source
edit on 24-3-2011 by Gemwolf because: Mod Edit: Added ex tags and link.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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The subtext of this thread's title is "go away, cease to exist, be a non-human", which is really genocidal. Imagine a world where most people said "be heterosexual all you want, just hush up about it"? Very sick mentality behind it. Anyone who doesn't understand this must be in denial, living in the dark ages or of limited intelligence.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Exactly, if you don't like gay marriage, then don't have one lol
Personally im straight, and if your gay, cool whatever floats your boat, just keep your boat off my creek if you know what I mean.

Other then that, they do have all the marriages and rights they want, it's not my life. I don't care what they do.
But some people care what others think, one thing I noticed is.

Those who are right up against gays have a problem with gays because they themselves are secretly gay and are in supreme denial. If your comfortable with your sexuality then someone else's sexuality doesn't bother you, but if your uncomfortable with your own, well something is stiring in the sub conscience.

Look at priests they are against homosexuality but aren't attracted to women, which is why they joined "not attracted to women, gay is wrong so I'll be a priest" that gayness is still there, they are just supressing it, and males usually need some sort of feel good feeling, so then most priests turns to children, someone under their control.

The feeling of power and to relase that sexual tension, which is why many priests diddle kids,(most being male) because they have no one else to turn to, for that feeling of power or the physical relase.

So if someone says god hates gays, tell them their own religious churches are even worse, not that being gay is wrong, but the fact those who are against it usually act out in simlar or worse senarios. Then deny it ever happened, pretending to be straight, putting on a show. But secretly who are they trying to convince others or themselves?



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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I'm surprised by how many people support the OP in this opinion. There was a time when I thought homosexuality was forced in front of us, but honestly I came to understand why this was happening. It had to happen.

Heterosexuals in certain cultures have been punishing Homosexuals for centuries. 30 or 40 years ago no Homosexual in their right mind would walk down the street with their life partner holding hands, unless they were prepared to be hated, or maybe even physically attacked for it. All the while millions of Heterosexual couples do it every single day without anyone batting an eye. They do it on TV, in the street, they write about it, they talk about it, and some channels are solely dedicated to sexual activities between Heterosexual couples. We have shows about married couples having children, and since we know how children are conceived, we can only assume that these married couples have to have sex to achieve such a thing.

Introducing Homosexuals to our TV shows, the news, allowing them to parade on the street is a way to get us to wake up and realize that it's time to treat them as human beings. It's one way to force us to open our eyes and realize that they are human beings with emotions, feelings, desires not unlike our own. By making Homosexuality more main-stream, it helps gay teenagers and young adults to feel a little less abnormal,.... maybe a little more comfortable in their own skin.

Imagine having to contain your feelings of love for a person for the rest of your life. Imagine being unable to express yourself to them, and imagine having to hide that love from the public. It must be like living in Iran, or some other repressed culture where everything must happen behind closed doors.

I am lucky that I was born Heterosexual, because I don't have to think about hiding my feelings for my significant other. I don't have to worry that people are whispering behind our backs as we walk down the street hand in hand. I don't have to worry about being punched in the face or told countless times I'm going to hell, because I love someone of the same sex.

It's actually really sad that Homosexuals have to force their way in front of us to get us to recognize that they are worthy human beings who are good people, and different only in that they are attracted to the same sex. It's sad that we should try to keep them from marrying each other or being able to express their love for each other in public by holding hands or a peck on a cheek. It's sad that we have these threads from people who are sick and tired of the Homosexual agenda, or asking them to "shut up about it". They've been quiet about it for centuries!!! There's nothing wrong with them letting loose and finally fighting to be accepted as one of us. I say bring it on. It doesn't bother me, because unlike years ago when I had the same thoughts as the OP running through my head, I now understand it.

It's too bad there's no way for the OP to walk in their shoes for a week, and watch all the Heterosexuals enjoy the exposure, freedom of expression and openness that they enjoy on a daily basis. I can imagine that watching TV or walking through the park as a Homosexual for a couple of hours must really feel like a slap in the face. All the couples are Heterosexual, dating, kissing, flirting and having intimate relations,.... taking these freedoms for granted.



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by paratus
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If homosexuality were natural/normal either men would have a uterus, or women would have been removed from the foodchain by force long ago.

Heterosexuality is normal, to suggest otherwise is just foolish.


Explain the existence of erogenous zones then? If heterosexuality were JUST for procreation, then what's the deal with enjoying sex? Oh, and why aren't women fertile ALL the time? Can you explain someone's preference towards cupcakes vs. pies?

Behavior is not necessarily due to biological function. Sometimes, emotional function is as deciding a factor as bilogical. Preference just "IS".



posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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The discussion of differences between groups of human beings is not outside of T&C. I can say that I do not like group "A". I can ask others to discuss whether or not they agree with me not liking group "A". I can even make a thread saying I am sick of group "A" forcing their position or thoughts upon me.

The line is crossed if I try to incite hatred or violence against group "A" or if I post in a mocking or spiteful manner about them.

There is a difference between hate speech and discussion. Hate speech is not allowed here. But discussion is. If a subject seems to be on the border of these two things, staff will discuss it and try to reach a consensus. If the majority feels that it is hate speech, then the offending material is removed. If the consensus is that it is discussion then the material is left standing and staff keeps a close eye on it to ensure that it does not degrade into hate speech.

I hope this helps.

Hefficide
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