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NEWS: Hollywood/NFL ask FCC to block TIVO

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posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 09:21 AM
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Several groups wish to control where you may watch programming content that you have purchased by asking government to limit your rights. Potentially this could prevent you from watching a copy of an NFL football game on your automobile DVD or while visiting a friend.
 



story.news.yahoo.com
Hollywood studios and the National Football League are seeking to block the maker of the popular TiVo television recorder from expanding its service so that users could watch copies of shows and movies on devices outside their homes

In filings with the Federal Communications Commission, the organizations say the new technology could compromise the copyrights of shows that broadcasters send over the airwaves in digital form, which offers much higher sound and video quality than what viewers typically get today




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This is clearly nonsense. People have been legally copying programming for years under the fair use doctrine and nothing has changed other than the storage medium for the copies. Solely on this basis the FCC should reject the request.

Prior to posting this article I have notified my satellite TV provider that I am canceling NFL Sunday Ticket and have notified the NFL of the same via email. If the people at satellite do not put an end to this, I will cancel satellite TV entirely. Enough is enough.

[edit on 22-7-2004 by df1]

[edit on 22-7-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 12:45 AM
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Good for you. This DMCA crap is really getting out of hand. Its high time we take Hatch and the rest of his RIAA, MPAA Nazis down. Its getting to the point were just having a friend over to watch a DVD is criminal



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 12:54 AM
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We better figure out a way to put a stop to these folks. It's getting totally out of hand. I agree that people should be paid for their work, but we have a right to USE something AFTER we buy it, too.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:02 AM
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You know... I could almost hear their argument if this was about movies or something, because perhaps, the argument could be made that someone could record the movie off PPV and sell it. But a damn sports event? Oh my gosh someone is going to watch a DVD of Sunday's Giants game at his friend's house the next day. Firstly, why bother? Secondly, how would this differ from taping it on a VHS tape? This is stupidity in its truest form.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Djarums
You know... I could almost hear their argument if this was about movies or something, because perhaps, the argument could be made that someone could record the movie off PPV and sell it.


Remeber this is the same group that sued Replay (I have one) because you can use your broadband connection to share shows with other replay users. But really how big of a market do they think it is? I mean I have a really Kick ass home theatre (7.1 DDEX, THX etc) but would you pay me to come over and watch an episode of friends? Or even a movie? I doubt it....



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:13 AM
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The real reason is that they don't want you to be able to fastforward through advertisements. I mean even though we spend a fortune on cable we are somehow obligated to watch that crap. What state is Hatch from? There needs to be a serious move to remove that man from office.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Indy
The real reason is that they don't want you to be able to fastforward through advertisements. I mean even though we spend a fortune on cable we are somehow obligated to watch that crap. What state is Hatch from? There needs to be a serious move to remove that man from office.


Utah
His political contrubutors for 2004 include
1 Pfizer Inc $42,000
2 GlaxoSmithKline $33,499
3 St Paul Travelers Companies $31,300
4 Metabolife $30,500
5 Cerberus Partners $26,000
6 AT&T $24,768
7 AFLAC Inc $22,250
8 HEALTHSOUTH Corp $21,750
9 General Electric $21,500
10 Qwest Communications $20,000
11 Pharmaceutical Rsrch & Mfrs of America $19,525
12 Global Crossing $19,500
13 Rexall Sundown Inc $18,000
13 Host Marriott Corp $18,000
15 Bear Stearns $17,750
16 Nu Skin International $16,550
17 Torchmark Corp $16,500
18 Time Warner $15,500
18 Akin, Gump et al $15,500
20 Starlight International $15,000
20 Fiddler, Gonzalez & Rodriguez $15,000
20 Bank One Corp $15,000

www.opensecrets.org...



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:20 AM
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and, my guess is, Mormon Church $1.2 mil (under the table)



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:23 AM
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Thats campaign money right? What about PAC money?



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:27 AM
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Agribusiness
$10,000

Communic/Electronics
$31,500

Printing & Publishing
$4,000

TV/Movies/Music
$21,000

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
$1,000

Motion Picture Assn of America
$3,000

Recording Industry Assn of America
$1,000

Sony Pictures Entertainment
$4,000

Time Warner
$3,000

Universal Studios
$4,000

Viacom Inc
$2,000

Walt Disney Co
$3,000

Telephone Utilities
$2,000

Telecom Services & Equipment
$3,500

Computers/Internet
$1,000

Construction
$3,500

Defense
$11,500

Energy/Nat Resource
$15,500

Finance/Insur/RealEst
$104,447

Health
$58,135

Lawyers & Lobbyists
$24,017

Lawyers/Law Firms
$23,517

Lobbyists
$500

Transportation
$9,000

Misc Business
$30,000

Business Associations
$6,000

Food & Beverage
($2,000)

Misc Services
$1,000

Business Services
$1,000

Casinos/Gambling
$8,500

Chemical & Related Manufacturing
$3,500

Misc Manufacturing & Distributing
$12,000

Labor
$2,000

Ideology/Single-Issue
$9,000

Republican/Conservative
$1,000

Foreign & Defense Policy
$1,000

Human Rights
$5,000

Gun Rights
$1,000

Candidate Committees
$1,000



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:27 AM
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The thought occured to me... how can they even argue this? Aren't football games on channels like NBC and FOX? Those are free. Anyone with a set of rabbit ears and an old TV can watch those and not pay. They make their money through advertising, which is not changing whether you tape it or not. The advertisers are not paying them any less based on how many people record the game. How can taping a free show and watching it elsewhere be a problem? Yes, I'm aware of the cases of bars charging money to watch games on their big screens. That's different. This case was talking about putting it on a DVD and watching it in my car. It's free at home... what the heck is the problem??

Holy crap look at all those Media companies contributing in FREDT's list. There's a shocker.

[edit on 7-23-2004 by Djarums]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Djarums
The thought occured to me... how can they even argue this? Aren't football games on channels like NBC and FOX? Those are free. Anyone with a set of rabbit ears and an old TV can watch those and not pay. They make their money through advertising, which is not changing whether you tape it or not. [edit on 7-23-2004 by Djarums]


Yeah I love Opensecrets.org. You can see who is in the pockets of whom. A poster above hit the nail on the head. I think its because of the ability to zap commercials. My wife and I have gotten to the point were we don't watch anything "live" these days to simply avoid the commercials. Thats what this is really all about.....



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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I bought satellite radio because I love music so much, but I can't handle commercials or censorship of my music anymore, so I don't I have satellite now, and I don't have either one.

I think if you pay for a service, Cable/Satellite, then you shouldn't have to put up with commericals. If you do, then why are you paying?



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