Artistic Terrorism: Art Through History That Changed the World, page 3

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reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 10:40 AM by Cataclysmo

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

The way I look at things is that the government declared a "War on Terrorism". My biggest problem, however, is that terrorism has no country or face. The Call for war by congress against an unknown foe. Yes I know... We went after Osama Bin Laden. Which we never got him. Next we went from that to Iran/ Iraq/ Afghanistan. So who are we fighting.

What's even worse is that because of the "War on Terrorism", our own people are getting arrested for no reason at all. Peaceful people getting wiretaps and Swat incursions. Even kids who like most kids now-a-days like to download onto their computer. One kid got arrested and detained for 6 months and he didn't even do anything wrong. He got arrested for contributing to cyber Terrorism.

This whole terrorism thing has always gotten on my nerves. That included with the patriot act our government can do whatever they want with whoever they want. Refuse to pay your taxes? Economic terrorism. To me it feels a lot like our Government is just doing what they want and using terrorism to wrap up any probable cause they may or may not have.

I'm mostly aggravated at the fact that we let this happen because everyone knows that since we have elected officials we can put all of our faith into them and rest easy. All the while they are laughing behind our backs.

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 02:58 PM by FortAnthem

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

I'm a terrorist, you're a terrorist, he's a terrorist, she's a terrorist, wouldn't you like to be a terrorist too?

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If everybody can be classified as a terrorist by someone else who disagrees with their views, who's gonna guard all of us down at Guantanamo?

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 03:10 PM by Jean Paul Zodeaux

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I suppose all we can do is turn our heads to it and have a nice cold can of Terrorist Cola...or, we can begin holding those responsible for this horrible defamation accountable. If a jury is willing to agree with a federal prosecutor that someone who coined their own silver dollars is an "economic terrorist" then I guess we have our work cut out for us, but to tolerate it is unthinkable. Maybe, in this regard, we have to fight fire with fire and begin filing verified oaths against government officials attempting to make innocent people "enemy combatants" as being legislative terrorists, and prosecution terrorists, and judicial terrorists.

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 06:43 PM by Aquarius1

Let's not forget that we are being treated like we are terrorists, not only that being programed to not trust our neighbors.

reply posted on 23-3-2011 @ 06:54 PM by Jinglelord

We are lucky in the modern world that we now have several places to look to to see how to rid ourselves of this artistic terrorism. The proletariat revolution in China made an excellent go at removing the effects of these vile terrorists and look as they now are able live in a world free from terrorism...

It is odd when you look closely every great leader, artist, philosopher that anyone reveres is a terrorist to someone.

We thrive on change and the destruction of the status quo. Without it we couldn't grow.

reply posted on 3-5-2011 @ 01:39 AM by mistermonculous

To me, the interplay between historical events and artistic movements arising as a response to such events; and artistic movements laying the idealogical groundwork for cultural trends which in turn give rise to historical events has been a delightful, recursive push-me pull-you.

Example: WWI and all its senseless horrors gave rise to Dada, which in turn led to a veritable explosion of new, valid means of artistic expression. This general trend wafted its way through the pop culture of the 50's as jazz, the beat culture, and mostly, pouty dudes on motorcycles.

Which, after the excesses of the 60's led Andy Warhol to treat the central horror of 50's commercialism (itself a desperate retreat away from deprivation, division and industrial carnage of WWII) with a deeply absurd, yup, even Dadaist approach.

What shall be spawned by the mudslide of disastrous events we are currently undergoing? Cultural trends = false unity, hyper-sexualized pop-cultural content, zero privacy. Currently unfolding historical events to be= terrible news.

edit on 3-5-2011 by mistermonculous because: Blurgh.

reply posted on 3-5-2011 @ 06:33 AM by masqua

Originally posted by mistermonculous
What shall be spawned by the mudslide of disastrous events we are currently undergoing? Cultural trends = false unity, hyper-sexualized pop-cultural content, zero privacy. Currently unfolding historical events to be= terrible news.

Day-Glo paintings of doe-eyed kittens on black velvet, mind-numbing 70's musicals looped and regurgitated, 80's comic-book characters ruling in Hollywood movies, writers groundhog-day'd at 2005 (thanks to Kindle) and a general stifling of all creativity through political and judiciary machinations.

Welcome to the new Fahrenheit 451/1984/A Canticle for Leibowitz reality show where everyone is voted off the island and nobody wins the $million$.

Ayn Rand... you are fired

edit on 3/5/11 by masqua because: Damned apostophe

reply posted on 3-5-2011 @ 08:26 PM by Ev0lveUp

reply to post by masqua

Couldn't leave a comment on your artwork, but the tree was just gorgeous. Lots of really nice work!

reply posted on 3-5-2011 @ 08:34 PM by Danbones

Awsome thread JPZ

does the art of writing here at ATS change the world...?
are the TB afraid ..terrorized by the TRUTH?
truth terrorism:
"I'LL tell on you!"

as hitler said
"think with your blood..."
the germans used art to pervay propaganda in a BIG way
that changed the world

Remember when rock was bad...black men playin white woman dancing....?

Remember the threat of crashing the markets and the flash crash
and the subsequent bailout...
Even when the majority said NO

Devinci Terrorfied the stupid....
his art changed the world

Darwin the writer and Natyral Artist terrifies the evanjelicals..

Of course there are the MARTIAL ARTS

and PS
Masqua
I love your work

edit on 3-5-2011 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 4-5-2011 @ 06:15 AM by masqua

reply to post by Danbones

reply to post by Ev0lveUp

Stop it, my ego is inflated to the bursting point, I'm gonna float away!

AAaaaaaaaaaa...

On the topic of painting alone: Nothing has diminished the creativity of painters on this fair planet more than the global recession. What percentage of the population would consider paying a reasonable price for anything like that? Less than 1%? The Elites? CEO's looking to invest?

Well... they're not about to throw their money at 'new' art but invest in a commodity of known value. The old masters, period pieces, dead artists all.

When the middle class is revived (if ever), artists of all stripes might stand a chance.

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