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Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
No, what it's about is the west constantly taking the moral highground when acting in exactly the opposite way.
I care not a jot what the USSR did in the past, nor very much what russia does now.
And so when I do an ATS search with the words "budski" and "soviet" (or "russia"), how many pages of matches do you think I'll get?
Answer: at least 10 pages ...
So if you start out your post with, shall we just call it an "untruth", what should we think about the rest of your post?
Answer: Not much ...
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Now, remind me again, how many wars of aggression RUSSIA has launched in the last 10 years.
Putin is right on the money - the fact that you think he's not, pretty much automatically means he is.
Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya - it's not about democracy, human rights or freedom, if it were, there are many other places under much harsher regimes that need attention.
It's about OIL and MONEY - the 2 headed american neo-con god abbetted by the major deity that is the military industrial complex.
Anyone who puts their contributor status in their sig, has a serious ego problem - so you go right ahead and think you've "won" something if it makes you feel better.
Originally posted by budski
Nice try, but that option is available to everyone, and they will soon see the lie and attempted smear for the pathetic attempt it truly is - after over 4 years on this site, I've replied to a few posts about russia or the USSR. So what?
I don't notice russia taking the moral highground, talking about freedom and democracy, and then going and murdering hundreds of thousands of people under this very thin pretext.
What I notice is my own countries leaders doing it, and believing that the people they represent are stupid enough to fall for the lies and rhetoric.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Only because you are choosing to focus on a very narrow period of history. Likely the only period of russian history you could say that about. Russians have probably killed more of their own people than all the deaths hitler is responsible for.
Originally posted by Mdv2
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Now, remind me again, how many wars of aggression RUSSIA has launched in the last 10 years.
Putin is right on the money - the fact that you think he's not, pretty much automatically means he is.
Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya - it's not about democracy, human rights or freedom, if it were, there are many other places under much harsher regimes that need attention.
It's about OIL and MONEY - the 2 headed american neo-con god abbetted by the major deity that is the military industrial complex.
Anyone who puts their contributor status in their sig, has a serious ego problem - so you go right ahead and think you've "won" something if it makes you feel better.
Russia intervened in Georgia, in support of Georgian break-away provinces which stood in solidarity with Russia, but now it comes to Western intervention in support of Libyan separation movements, it suddenly is a crusade? Crusade is per definition the wrong word to use, but the double standards Russia maintains are simply pathetic.
Even more pathetic is your personal anti-Americanism by insinuating Putin is right in saying the West is on a crusade. Russia is the last country that should morally judge others when it comes to these matters.
edit on 22-3-2011 by Mdv2 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by budski
Some people love to use the little bit pregnant argument.
They honestly feel if they can find worse examples of similiar behavior that it makes the bad behavior they are trying to minimize by comparison good behavior!
This is something that doesn't work to well in a court of Law "You honor unlike Jesse James I only robbed 1 bank and not 16, and no trains at all"!
Yet here on ATS combined with a or a some imagine this turns a bad argument into a good one.
Go figure.
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I understand your reasoning, and your points - I just don't buy into that particular NWO conspiracy.
If we are to move forwards as a species, then a single world government is inevitable at some point - the only argument is about the political system it works under.
edit on 22/3/2011 by budski because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Nope you lie - it's very easy to talk about "stats". Try reading the threads.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by budski
reply to post by centurion1211
Nope you lie - it's very easy to talk about "stats". Try reading the threads.
There's your problem.
You actually believe ATS thread content (especially your own ) over statistics and documented history.
You're not in charge of anything or anyone or running for elected office are you? God, I hope not!
And psssst! I'm not the one caught in a lie in a previous post on this very thread ...
Originally posted by budski
Membership of ATS does require that I believe everything that everyone else does.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by budski
Membership of ATS does require that I believe everything that everyone else does.
^^^^^
Further evidence for what I just posted above ...
2nd - or does this count as the 3rd?
Originally posted by budski
Putin slams West for 'medieval crusade'
www.news.com.au
"To me, it resembles some sort of medieval call to crusade when someone would appeal to someone to go to a certain place and free someone else."
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by budski
Honestly I think Putin is just being an ass...