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The Dumbing Down of America

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posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:23 PM
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Congratulations on raising yourself to such an extraordinary level.


My mom is also big on her Christian faith. It certainly affected me and I've learned a lot from it. One of the biggest lessons I learned from her and it was that I should always do my own thinking - balancing perspectives and reason. For example, I was sitting in church once and something the preacher said in his sermon did not sit well with me. I went home and asked my mom about it. She immediately whipped out her worn bible and opened it up straight to the very part I was talking about. She handed it to me and told me to read the passage for myself. Then she asked me what I thought it meant. She showed me that just because a man is a preacher does not mean he is always right. Through prayer and supplication, we are all heirs to the mind of Christ. We are all able to think for ourselves. It was profound.

I went to college straight out of high school, as was expected. I was so young, dumb and into partying and playing sports, I didn't have a clue concerning what I wanted to do with my life. I didn't even know what a major was.
My main goal in life was to play sports for my college. That's what they were paying me for. (Oh well, at least I learned what my social security number was!:lol
It would serve me well in the not-so-distant future.

After a long and drawn out break-up at the end of my first semester, despite my scholarships, I decided not to return. I didn't care. I figured I'd go back home, get a job and start over. I spent the next year working as a dishwasher and a screen engraving artist. During that time I fell in love with someone I was ready to spend my whole life with. I quickly realized I would have to do something serious to back that dream up. Being that I loved travel & adventure and was very patriotic, I joined the ARMY. I just knew I'd get sent to Germany like everyone else I knew that went that route. Didn't seem like a bad idea. Not at all. AND.. I'd establish my credit and get money for my college education.

I had it all wrong! Instead of Germany, I went straight to Ft. Campbell, KY (101st ABN Division, Air Asslt). I got there in January and by September the whole division was sent to Saudi Arabia for Operation Desert Shield/Storm. Being it was still the cold war, that was the last thing I ever thought would happen!
(I completely supported it, tho.) Being out in the Arabian and Mesopotamian deserts gave me more time to think than you can imagine. I realized that there were things I wanted to do and things I wanted to be. I resolved that I would commit myself to the persuit of knowledge and upon my return to Ft. Campbell, God willing, I would get into college and finish my degree. What degree? Although I wanted to become a writer, I was also into politics. I chose Political Science and History (as my father had before me - strange co-incidence. He died before I knew that). I wanted to become an expert at something specific and knew I'd learn how to write regardless. And so I was right. The Persian Gulf War was the most profound experience I've ever had - on so many levels. I've thought about it every day of my life since and thank God for the experience. I came away from it and my time in the Army having a whole new appreciation for education.

Gools, I know what you mean about the ignorance and apathy you found in college. It's alarming. But you know, anyone with money can get a degree these days. I used to leave one poli/sci class, in particular, just shaking my head in utter disbelief at the wholesale lack of knowledge some of my classmates displayed. These are the kids coming out of the public school system, by and large. It's very sad.




posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 01:15 PM
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yes they did.

I don't want to belittle people who didn't have the kind of upbringing I had. I didn't earn my parents, it was the luck of the draw.

I was laughing at gool's comment about not hushing you're kid's up with "Because I said so!" Man, that's a sore spot at my own house, with our toddler. But I know what you mean. Telling him not to stick a fork in the toaster while it's on, is a lot different than telling him how to vote or pray. At least I hope it is.

After I say something ingenious like "because, that's why!" I usually cuddle up with him and a book. You can order kid's books in foreign languages by the way. I'm working on my Spanish while I read to him. It's a hoot.

You are all correct; I guess what I'm saying is that it was not the setting that helped me educate myself; it was the spirit. That could have been achieved anywhere, at home, or the cubs scouts. Just any environment where it was "taken for granite" that I would be interested in the larger world.



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
You can order kid's books in foreign languages by the way. I'm working on my Spanish while I read to him. It's a hoot.


Now THAT is a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that when I have kids.. (if some poor woman will have me!
).



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 01:53 PM
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My choice in careers at this stage in my development is a job involving Foreign Relation, Intelligence , or Diplomacy.

But will my overcrowded high school of 2,500 provide me with any oppurtunity to further my studies in this area?

Will my school library carry many of the books written by leading diplomats and military leaders?

On a personal level that is my gripe with the education system, although I am not so selfish as to forget that many other students have even less oppurtunity as I have had, as myself being a upper middle class white male.

There are still ways for me to study my interests, places like this or a couple leadership forums on the subject Im applying for.

One thing that I really feel is dumbing down America is our chronic overglamorization of wealth and celebrity.

I could ramble on for pages about how bad the media has become on overexposing the dirty lives of celebrity, but most should see what Im talking about as its plastered on E!, VH1, and MTV on an almost daily basis.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 06:23 AM
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u guys sure know how to make me feel dumb
if only my parents had taken the initiative to pry me away from the nintendo and teach me how to live! they were too busy "blue pilling" to the tune of football and entertainment tonight. giving children the freedom to do whatever they want will turn them into joyless uninterested people. i had that kind of freedom as a child, countless spoils, and nights of binge gaming. at the time i thought i was the happiest kid in the world, perhaps i was. it all made socially confused. in high school the pain of ignorance and social inadiquacy was vented through long nights of partys and drugs. many peers of mine still participate in these activities. out of high school it is still very hard for me to socialize, so i vow to spend every waking moment expanding my mind, and toppling the ignorance that is grasping our society. i bid thee good day.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Agent47
My choice in careers at this stage in my development is a job involving Foreign Relation, Intelligence , or Diplomacy.


That's a great, fascinating path to take, Agent47. I encourage you to follow your dream. An excellent place to start might be ROTC. I don't know what point you're at, but if you have one or more years left in HS, I would definitely encourage your participation in that. Perhaps, one of your leaders could steer you in the appropriate direction. The military is the best and quickest path into intel. You might be able to get a scholarship so you can study political or military science. Go for it!



Will my school library carry many of the books written by leading diplomats and military leaders?


If you can get to a public library, there's plenty of that stuff there. And there are many, many sites on the internet you can learn about those subjects. Follow your curiosity and MAKE IT HAPPEN! It's all within your grasp.

If you're anywhere near a college, you should try and visit their library. That would be even better for politics and research.


There are still ways for me to study my interests, places like this or a couple leadership forums on the subject Im applying for.


That sounds like a good start. Just keep at it, Agent. You'd be surprised at what you can accomplish with a little tenacity. It's all in your power, like my friend used to say, "If you can see it, you can be it."


One thing that I really feel is dumbing down America is our chronic overglamorization of wealth and celebrity.


Yes, that's so much a part of the plan. It's mainly to distract Americans from what's really going on. There is ZERO value in that crap. I mean, who really gives a shiZit what kind of sunglasses anorexic Paris Hilton is wearing this week and why Prince's ex.. who comes from a good family is carrying Michael Jackson's latest turkey-baister "babies?" ZERO VALUE.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by kogigaiden
out of high school it is still very hard for me to socialize, so i vow to spend every waking moment expanding my mind, and toppling the ignorance that is grasping our society. i bid thee good day.


Hey man, keep ya head up. It's great to know you've come to some good and solid conclusions about how to spend your time. The past is what it is and the future is what YOU make it. Things'll get better for you.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by muppet


Now THAT is a brilliant idea. I'm going to do that when I have kids.. (if some poor woman will have me!
).



Hang in there, mate. There's some gal out there waiting just for you.

[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
That's a great, fascinating path to take, Agent47. I encourage you to follow your dream. An excellent place to start might be ROTC.


We agree again!

Ive put in applications for an Air Force scholarship, but seeing as they prefer more math and science oriented majors, I am also applying for the Army and Navy versions.
Im hopeful for the outcome.



Yes, that's so much a part of the plan. It's mainly to distract Americans from what's really going on. There is ZERO value in that crap. I mean, who really gives a shiZit what kind of sunglasses anorexic Paris Hilton is wearing this week and why Prince's ex.. who comes from a good family is carrying Michael Jackson's latest turkey-baister "babies?" ZERO VALUE.



Your right it shouldnt matter but it seems a majority of Americans do find this stuff fascinating. Otherwise the afformented networks would have zero viewership.

We have to wonder why we have become so fixated on the lives of the rich and famous, and what type of gaps we are trying to fill in our own lives.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:33 PM
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Best of luck in your persuit, Agent47! I hope it all works out for you.


As far as your other comments, here's an article that addresses some of that. (Altho, I don't agree with every single view of the author, I do concur with most of what he says.) It goes far in why all this is.

Just something to chew on.

This cult is gradually corrupting, dehumanizing and conditioning us to accept a police state (New World Order). They lull and distract while they eliminate our freedoms and prepare for repression, using "terrorism" as a phony pretext.

In a 1961 lecture, Aldous Huxley described this police state as "the final revolution": a "dictatorship without tears" where people "love their servitude."

The goal is to produce " a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away ... but ... will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing ... enhanced by pharmacological methods."

Among these pharmacologicals we now can recognize Ritalin, Prozac and Viagra, which healthy men commonly use for peformance. Doctors are elite dealers designated to addict, distract and sedate society. A document entitled "Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars" confirms this is part of the war against humanity.
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