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Originally posted by LadyV
There is a whole lot more in the bible about NOT lusting after others, not lying, stealing, etc...than there is about homosexuality...but I bet you still do it don't you? What about looking at porn on your computer? How many in this thread do that? How many of you watch adult movies, fantasize about two woman together....make remarks about actresses or movie stars, how many have had an affair?...cut the crap....if your gonna spout bible to condemn a set of people...then hold those same holier than thou standards to yourself...
Many laymen now believe that homosexuality is part of who a person really is from the moment of conception.
The "genetic and unchangeable" theory has been actively promoted by gay activists and the popular media. Is homosexuality really an inborn and normal variant of human nature?
No. There is no evidence that shows that homosexuality is simply "genetic." And none of the research claims there is. Only the press and certain researchers do, when speaking in sound bites to the public.
Would the clone of a gay man also be gay, and if he was, what would that tell us about homosexuality? Not very much. There are already plenty of kids out there whose biological parents are both gay. Some of these kids grow up to be gay, many of them do not. Simply producing a genetic copy of a gay man does not tell us anything about the cultural, social and environmental influences on sexuality. The vast majority of traits, including physical ones, are influenced by multiple genes, and by environmental and social factors.
Hamer's paper-- "A Linkage Between DNA Markers on the X Chromosome and Male Sexual Orientation"-- had the modest ring of science, where change is often slow and incremental. But the underlying idea seemed to carry enormous implications: Homosexuality was not a choice--"the wrong choice," as many religious and political leaders have demogogued on the issue. Instead, homosexuality was as much a biological fact as eye color.
Though the outcome of the "gay gene" debate is uncertain, the very fact of the debate is evidence of great change: The prevailing scientific view of the fundamental nature of homosexuality has undergone a signficant evolution in the last several decades
There is a difference between demonstrating a correlation between two things, and proving a causal relationship between them. This, in essence, is William Byne's thoughtful critique of the research of Hamer, LeVay, and others who have found certain neuroanatomical or genetic traits that may correlate with, but, he believes, likely do not cause, homosexuality. "Researchers and the public must resist the temptation to consider [these biological theories of homosexuality] in any but the most tentative fashion," Byne concludes. "Perhaps more important, we should also be asking ourselves why we as a society are so emotionally invested in this research." Byne also questions the link between biology and public policy: "At the political level, a requirement that an unconventional trait be inborn or immutable is an inhumane criterion for a society to use in deciding which of its nonconformists it will grant tolerance."
Currently, homosexuality is treated as a choice, and it will remain that way as long as it is not proven, that it is an illness
Originally posted by Jamuhn
An illness?!?!?! Why would you say that?
Is it an illness to have sex with a condom, after all you are not reproducing?
And how well would this world function if everytime someone had sex, they had a baby?
I don't think you understand how homosexuality functions in the overall scheme of things. Think about it.
Once the gays can answer why do they have this kind of lifestyle, I am sure, they will be treated much better. It could alse help the scientists to be a bit honest.
Originally posted by Istvan
What I want to hear from homosexuals first: what is their problem with the opposite gender?