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A Response to Kevin Ryan (from a Mexican surfing MadMan)

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posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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A Response to Kevin Ryan (from a Mexican surfing MadMan)

Allan Weisbecker


Jim,

Your recent bloggo-sphere conflict with Kevin Ryan did not surprise me – I’ve had my own problematical interaction with Doctor Ryan (coincidentally, with Bob Parry as well); somehow I feel qualified to comment here.

As you likely know, Doctor Ryan has been doing investigative work regarding how the explosives came to be placed in the WTC towers (plus Building 7), i.e., in-depth histories of the security companies and personnel involved, and so forth.

As you also know, I’ve recently published an ambitious essay which covers several subjects, as is suggested by the title: ‘On the Deep State, Denial, 9/11, and the Legend of ‘Maverick’ FBI Agent John O’Neill’. And that’s just the subtitle, the main title being, ‘Orwell’s Optimism’. I know: Whoa!

Although I’d like to think that the heart of the piece is an expose of a faulty system of thought/inquiry, call it a ‘paradigm problem’ (hinted at by the ‘Denial’ plus the reference to Orwell in the title), my practical aim is to explode the myth of FBI Agent John O’Neill, who was supposedly killed on 9/11, and is considered ‘the real thing’ and a martyr by many of the truth persuasion – to my knowledge, the possibility that O’Neill was part of the 9/11 conspiracy has never even been considered; in fact, the very idea borders on ‘truther heresy’ – a concept with which, unfortunately, I am of late becoming very familiar.

I believe my essay lays bare the evidence and logic underlying my thesis that O’Neill was indeed one of the bad guys and almost certainly faked his death that day. But my point in bringing this up here is that Doctor Ryan, given his subject of deep inquiry – how the WTC security system was so massively breached that tons of explosive/incendiary materials could have been installed throughout the skeletal infrastructure – should in theory be extremely interested in my findings, since John O’Neill was the head of security of the whole WTC complex for the three weeks preceding 9/11. (The ‘O’Neill myth’ is built upon the disinformation/misinformation – what clearly started as disinformation became misinformation when repeated by the victims of the disinformer – that O’Neill started work on 9/11. He in fact started work on August 23rd.)

As most 9/11 researchers know (and as Doctor Ryan has pointed out), the two to three weeks prior to 9/11 were fraught with what, in retrospect, one can only describe as ‘suspicious’ goings on at the complex: power downs (one of which was described by a knowledgeable tenant as ‘unprecedented’), sudden ‘elevator maintenance’, along with the suspension of security surveillance and the removal of bomb sniffing dogs; the sorts of doings that would fit with finalizing prep work (if only a systems’ check) commensurate with the complexities of a top-down disintegration engineered to pass for a gravity-driven collapse (if only to the disinformed/misinformed masses).

To put the matter rhetorically: Assuming, as most of us do, that 9/11 was a hugely complex, intricately planned black op – and keeping in mind that ‘terrorists’ (aided by the FBI) already tried to blow up the WTC – is there even a modicum, even a theoretical molecule, of a possibility that the plan would include giving a ‘real thing’ anti-terror expert the job of uncovering a ‘bomb plot’ at the last minute, when the explosives were already in place?

In fact, would it not make sense that the WTC Head of Security would have been charged (by the deep state perps) with the vital task of seeing that all went smoothly in those last weeks before zero hour?

Jim, I would hope that an epiphanic light bulb is lighting up over the head of anyone who happens to read this, as I believe (from your response) it went off over yours, but my point in outlining this information here (there’s much, much more) relates to Doctor Ryan.


For more, jamesfetzer.blogspot.com...




posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Allan Weisbecker is a novelist, screenwriter, memorist, and surfer, who has taken an interest in 9/11 and JFK. He is the author of the "cheerfully immoral novel”, Cosmic Banditos, of the memoir, In Search of Captain Zero: A Surfer’s Road Trip Beyond the End of the Road, and of Can't You Get Along With Anyone? A Writer's Memoir and a Tale of a Lost Surfer's Paradise. He currently resides in Mexico while completing his latest film, “Water Time; Surf Travel Diary of a Mad Man”.


Originally posted by JimFetzer



A Response to Kevin Ryan (from a Mexican surfing MadMan)

Allan Weisbecker


Jim,

Your recent bloggo-sphere conflict with Kevin Ryan did not surprise me – I’ve had my own problematical interaction with Doctor Ryan (coincidentally, with Bob Parry as well); somehow I feel qualified to comment here.

As you likely know, Doctor Ryan has been doing investigative work regarding how the explosives came to be placed in the WTC towers (plus Building 7), i.e., in-depth histories of the security companies and personnel involved, and so forth.

As you also know, I’ve recently published an ambitious essay which covers several subjects, as is suggested by the title: ‘On the Deep State, Denial, 9/11, and the Legend of ‘Maverick’ FBI Agent John O’Neill’. And that’s just the subtitle, the main title being, ‘Orwell’s Optimism’. I know: Whoa!

Although I’d like to think that the heart of the piece is an expose of a faulty system of thought/inquiry, call it a ‘paradigm problem’ (hinted at by the ‘Denial’ plus the reference to Orwell in the title), my practical aim is to explode the myth of FBI Agent John O’Neill, who was supposedly killed on 9/11, and is considered ‘the real thing’ and a martyr by many of the truth persuasion – to my knowledge, the possibility that O’Neill was part of the 9/11 conspiracy has never even been considered; in fact, the very idea borders on ‘truther heresy’ – a concept with which, unfortunately, I am of late becoming very familiar.

I believe my essay lays bare the evidence and logic underlying my thesis that O’Neill was indeed one of the bad guys and almost certainly faked his death that day. But my point in bringing this up here is that Doctor Ryan, given his subject of deep inquiry – how the WTC security system was so massively breached that tons of explosive/incendiary materials could have been installed throughout the skeletal infrastructure – should in theory be extremely interested in my findings, since John O’Neill was the head of security of the whole WTC complex for the three weeks preceding 9/11. (The ‘O’Neill myth’ is built upon the disinformation/misinformation – what clearly started as disinformation became misinformation when repeated by the victims of the disinformer – that O’Neill started work on 9/11. He in fact started work on August 23rd.)

As most 9/11 researchers know (and as Doctor Ryan has pointed out), the two to three weeks prior to 9/11 were fraught with what, in retrospect, one can only describe as ‘suspicious’ goings on at the complex: power downs (one of which was described by a knowledgeable tenant as ‘unprecedented’), sudden ‘elevator maintenance’, along with the suspension of security surveillance and the removal of bomb sniffing dogs; the sorts of doings that would fit with finalizing prep work (if only a systems’ check) commensurate with the complexities of a top-down disintegration engineered to pass for a gravity-driven collapse (if only to the disinformed/misinformed masses).

To put the matter rhetorically: Assuming, as most of us do, that 9/11 was a hugely complex, intricately planned black op – and keeping in mind that ‘terrorists’ (aided by the FBI) already tried to blow up the WTC – is there even a modicum, even a theoretical molecule, of a possibility that the plan would include giving a ‘real thing’ anti-terror expert the job of uncovering a ‘bomb plot’ at the last minute, when the explosives were already in place?

In fact, would it not make sense that the WTC Head of Security would have been charged (by the deep state perps) with the vital task of seeing that all went smoothly in those last weeks before zero hour?

Jim, I would hope that an epiphanic light bulb is lighting up over the head of anyone who happens to read this, as I believe (from your response) it went off over yours, but my point in outlining this information here (there’s much, much more) relates to Doctor Ryan.


For more, jamesfetzer.blogspot.com...



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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This guy raises some good points.


Either way, what Dr. Ryan has been putting out there lately is good enough to get subpoenas and indictments rolling when pushing finally comes to shove.

He's named names, showed suspect tenants being in the right parts of the building at the right time, showed means of access columns, specific time frames, etc. The real meat and potatoes of a criminal investigation with teeth.

This is all good information. Keep it coming.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Like any topic, bias and polarization can be anything from focused to immensely generalized, and I understand quite well how it is to be "in the middle", where you challenge and confront any and all aspects only to find yourself between two frothing sets of zombies on either side of you. I do wish more people would behave more civilly. For example, despite Kevin Ryan's phenomenal research I still reserve a constant critical take on all that is brought to the table. I still apply the "what if...Bush and his cronies were part of the victims rather than players in the crime", despite Kevin's research glaring in opposition to that, for I ask myself "what if someone was bright enough to see the trail, or even left the trail ahead of time for the purpose of exploiting it after the fact". Whether that turns out to be a ridiculous or genius conclusion it can open up new avenues of thought and discoveries either way.

Of course there are times where such stances can be ridiculous - I'm not saying there is no spoon, only that maybe there are actually two forks.


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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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this is a very interesting subject being raised on whether or not John O' Neill was actually in on it, the disinformation idea is fitting but if you're the perps why would you even bother bringing him into the spot light as a good guy when you could simply not mention him at all, thus not raising suspicion what so ever? Probably not a coincidence the work that went in to the buildings started once John started work there, i like that one, heh.. when you think about it, whether John was in on it or not. He was in charge of security. Either someone exploited the fact that John had only just started or John had something to do with it. I'll guess I'll have to check out the full blog though, thanks.



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