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Divide New York Into Two States?

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posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 07:40 PM
reply to post by dolphinfan

I was just going to mention that. Several states are in the same boat. Much of the time large cities lean left, more rural or suburban areas lean right.

Take a look at the map of 08 voting results by county and you'll see what I mean..

edit on 23-3-2011 by Frogs because: pic no work

posted on Mar, 23 2011 @ 07:55 PM
Urban centers are like parasites for the rest of the state.

They create the bulk of the crime, garbage, dependence, and expense.

Considering larger geographic areas, FEMA super-state regions for example, the more urban states leech the well being from the rural states.

Mass is a massive liability on NH politically and economically.

When two urban areas are considered the more densely populated one affects the less densely populated one as in NYC and CT.

I have no qualms with people wanting to ruin their cities/states. That's fine. I take objection when these people and their garbage spill over into other states often bringing with them money and elitist influence to manipulate and shape that new state into a spawn of the one which they have ruined.

It's bad enough when some uppity neighbor thinks you want his advice and it just gets worse when that zoning board or that town manager or that state legislature or that federal monstrosity point guns at your head to impose the advice they have for you.

Groups have way too much power over individuals. The mess you get when a densely populated area controls the existence of an entire state is an example of this unjust imbalance.

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posted on Nov, 10 2017 @ 04:57 AM
a reply to: jaynkeel

This is not a split in the NY state such as the one suggested for California but ...

Kiryas Joels split from Monroe overwhelmingly approved

The new town won’t come into existence until 2020, unless expedited by special legislation enacted in Albany after state lawmakers return in January for the 2018 session. Assemblyman James Skoufis, a Woodbury Democrat, has said he is writing a bill that would speed up the effective date for Palm Tree and secure additional state aid for Monroe-Woodbury School District to recoup some revenue it will lose. Monroe-Woodbury will lose a relatively small amount because it will cede 220 acres to Kiryas Joel School District to put all of the future Palm Tree in Kiryas Joel School District’s domain.

... a great victory for sectarianism anyway.

The Hasidic community of Kiryas Joel reportedly will become the first haredi Orthodox town in the United States after voters in Monroe, New York, overwhelmingly backed a referendum on secession.

On Tuesday, over 80 percent of Monroe voters backed the measure on Kiryas Joel, a village of over 20,000 Yiddish-speaking Jews associated with the Satmar Hasidic sect, to form the state’s first new town in 35 years. The Town of Palm Tree — an English translation of the Satmar rebbe’s surname, Teitelbaum — should come into existence in 2020, unless lawmakers speed up the process.

Source : JTA

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