reply to post by jimmyx
ugh, in deserts or baron wastelands,
nowhere near densely populated cities and towns!
calm down!? say that to a resident near the Fukushima plants!
Originally posted by tgidkp
lots and lots of bad science in this thread. i can understand the concern, but....
there is no such thing as "radioactive water". and 'acid rain' is a different beast, altogether.
it must be read as "radioactive particles carried by the water". this is a significant difference. the water ITSELF is not radioactive, and the particles that are being carried by it will fall out of solution quite easily. thus, the vast majority of the contamination will stay near the reactor site.
Originally posted by littlecloud
If there putting tons of water onto the plant, and 95% of it is becoming flash boiled, wouldnt it just be contaminating the air then?
And if not, wouldnt that cause some insane acid rain?
Im pretty sure i saw on the news in australia that a THEORETICAL scientest said that this may work to cool down the plant, but concidering the words theoretical and may were used, im not even sure they know if this will work or not..
Just entomb the stupid thing already!
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
The water that is pumped in there is essentially flash boiled. Id guess 95% of it becomes steam.
Originally posted by arbiture
Originally posted by arbiture
Was I censored by ATS, Doubtfull. I was polite and I doub't ATS MODS had issue.
But why the off-grey page?
Originally posted by Recollector
Fukushima have 3 exposed cores.Almost all the water poured in is becoming steam.Those reactors, now, work like they are suposing to work if they were online and producing energy via steam>electric turbines.
The problem is, that now, all the steam generated is going up freely, because the steam room doesn't exist anymore.
Add this to the info that the exclusion zone around Fukushima have been expanded to 90 km, and one will realize where the water goes.
Into radiated steam, not much up in the air to get into high atmosphere and travel over ocean, but high enough to put in danger an area of a 90km radius around the plant.
Thx to Lybia bombing and reasuring that the plant condition is ''stable'', MSM got the attention away for a while.
But they cannot stop the looming disaster.
>This information is new to me as of NOW. Request source of data, the issue-as operations to evaluate all available data. Likely stability is OF COURSE a rational option, God knows the workers are doing their best. If I may ask are you being possibly some what "passive aggressive" in #1: It's bad but better and under control? I apologize if I'm just acting as my usual idiot-self here. But I no fear of questions and never discuss anything I am told/read is sensitive. I'm not Wiki guys. Arbiture<<. STOP STOP/ END.
We need to understand this : the situation will be stable at Fukushima plant ONLY when the plant will be either buried under concrete or good as new and working like before the quake.
Its a NUCLEAR plant for god sake.Anything less then a working NUCLEAR plant is a potential disaster.
Bury the damn plant now, because the other choice will be rebuilding it.And rebuilding takes YEARS.
What they gonna do? Pour water for years into some reactors while 100 meters away some other ppl build a new reactor ? The area is so iradiated that rebuilding is not possible.
All they can really do is bury the reactors.All of them.edit on 22-3-2011 by Recollector because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wirefly
reply to post by captaintyinknots
95% into steam? You are referring to the water that actually lands on the reactor itself I would assume.
What about the rest of the water that is sprayed into the building? I would say just blindly spraying/dumping water into a half demoed building may get you about 25% target coverage at the extreme best. Now take the rest of that water that is essentially washing fallout off of the surrounding structure, and you have an awful lot of contaminated water running back into the ecosystem.
Not only that, that irradiated steam is carrying the fallout with it as well and precipitating it nearby as it evaporates.
No good in either way really.
Originally posted by crimvelvet
Sea Water is mainly Hydrogen, Oxygen, Sodium and Chloride. H2O - NaCl.
NONE of those elements are radioactive folks.
gamma radiation: takes the form of a high energy photon with an energy corresponding to the ¥-ray portion of the electromagnetic spectrum
or A very high energy form of electromagnetic radiation * , typically with wavelengths * of less than 3 pm. Gamma rays are produced by certain nuclear decay processes, and are used to sterilize food.
Are YOU radioactive after your dentist X-rays your teeth????
(I am a chemist and my spouse is a physicist)
In order to cool the reactor core some way must be found to lower the temperature of the core. It is a major mistake for Japan to flood the reactor core with sea water as the sea water composition is easily broken down when exposed to radiation. Salt water has a stable composition of sodium chloride (the salt) and hydrogen and oxygen (the water). But the radiation waves from the reactor core can disrupt that stability, degrading the bonds that hold the chemicals in salt water together. This releases the volatile hydrogen molecules, and the heat output from the nuclear reactor core rods can ignite them and burn them.