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Why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003

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posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003


www.cnn.com

Beyond the obvious difference that Obama has not authorized the use of U.S. ground forces in Libya, there are several other differences to consider:

First, the Obama administration was handed a gift by the Arab League, which in its more than six-decade history has garnered a well-earned reputation as a feckless talking shop, but unusually took a stand one week ago by endorsing a no-fly zone over Libya.
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posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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I have to say, it does have a lot of similarities.

Yet at the same time, it does have a lot of differences... to the degree that they are not the same thing.

I for one am glad to see how this came about. I know that many don't follow that philosophy... but I'm glad there are organizations like the UN.... now only if we can get them to intervene in Darfur....

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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All the differences between Iraq and Libya are outweighed by one similarity: oil. Find some oil in Darfur, and there will be a "coalition force" there "protecting civilians" with cruise missiles before you can say "extraordianry rendition."



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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I was not in favour of the war on Iraq but I have to say I think what were doing in Libya is justified, as soon as people started being literally massacred indiscriminately in Benghazi, it became clear how literally insane Gaddafi is. As long as this no fly zone goes no further I support it, the liberation of Libya should be down to the Libyan people.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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That is a key difference indeed between these places and Darfur...

As a Globalist/Humanist, I believe we should recognize the plentiful resource that is the human spirit as greater than oil.

But your point is well taken as to where the priorities are placed with the current globalists.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
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That is a key difference indeed between these places and Darfur...

As a Globalist/Humanist, I believe we should recognize the plentiful resource that is the human spirit as greater than oil.

But your point is well taken as to where the priorities are placed with the current globalists.



Yeah well that is not happening and the truth is Libya has something more valuable than oil, and that's one of the largest deposits of fossil water in the region.

This is actually likely the start of the Middle East Water Wars which will be something we are going to be seeing more of in the near future.

The United Nations is a sham and is simply a rubber stamp body for what the International Banking Cartel and Shadow Government want.

It is not a democratic process because of the way the Security Council and the Veto Powers are set up. It's not an honest process as has been displayed in Iraq where the Oil for Food program was badly abused for the personal benefit of the family of the UN General Secretary. It's not an honest process because false intelligence reports can be easily passed off on it like also happened in Iraq. It's not a consistent process because of selective enforcement that allows the Israelis to do to the people in Gaza decade after decade what Gadaffi couldn't get away with doing for a couple of weeks.

The UN is pretty much just an International Chamber of Commerce that's convenient for the Oligarchs and Banking Cartel to corrupt all the nations of the world through one stop don't even have to leave New York City to do it shopping.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Heres whats different:
We are not getting live TV News on each and every missile target.
Remember Iraq2?
Shock and awe and live TV..
This is the stealth version,same potential amount of force/munitions,but SHHhhh!Don't put it on the news this time.

Pics or it didn't happen right?

Thats the way the seem to be playing this time.
Seems a significant change to me.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Ide imagine CNN has long had a reputation for backing up criminal presidents, aka the BUSH's for starters. sympathizers call em what you want. so i wil never 100% belive anything poltiically like this CNN tells me.
2nd..that BP oil drill was in news here today..maybe the coalition forces/america is maknig sure gfahddaffi donst sink the god damn oil rig (which i hope he does, its bP)



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
All the differences between Iraq and Libya are outweighed by one similarity: oil. Find some oil in Darfur, and there will be a "coalition force" there "protecting civilians" with cruise missiles before you can say "extraordianry rendition."


Khaffafi was not holding back oil, it was all on the open market already.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by firepilot

Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
All the differences between Iraq and Libya are outweighed by one similarity: oil. Find some oil in Darfur, and there will be a "coalition force" there "protecting civilians" with cruise missiles before you can say "extraordianry rendition."


Khaffafi was not holding back oil, it was all on the open market already.


I think you mis read the post you answered to, I think the point is if there is oil there is sure to be the UN right there.
Also maybe because if what you say is correct ( it was all on the open market already) that could be a problem too if some people wish that not all the oil all the time was on the market.
Regards, Iwinder



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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A 19th-century Englishman named Godwin Smith once said about a British military intervention "We do not, like the nations of antiquity….We send our hired soldiers to attack a nation which may not be in need of the same regimen as ourselves."
That was in 1855, Crimean war.

Dont be fooled by the MSM that this war is for a humanitarian operation,it nothing more then a resource war,mixed with high powered personal agenda's,that us common folk have to pay for,and die for.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Good to see Obama doing what MUST be done instead of being a wuss and "attempting to consider the thoughts and feelings of Everyone..." as people are dying. Its good to see the man let his suit fall to the side - and have his REAL uniform show. He is the Commander in Chief of the United States of America. My family members and friends who are still in service LIVES depend on GOOD DECISION making by you Mr. Pres.


Dont let them down!

edit on 21-3-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
All the differences between Iraq and Libya are outweighed by one similarity: oil. Find some oil in Darfur, and there will be a "coalition force" there "protecting civilians" with cruise missiles before you can say "extraordianry rendition."


Tada!

www.atimes.com...



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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I'm with Silicone Synapse here. If all we're doing is taking out AA batteries to enable enforcement sorties for the no-fly-zone mission, then where's the sortie footage? In Iraq we were more than eager to let everybody know of our "shock and awe" capability. Why are we hiding it this time around?

Anybody?


It's one thing to claim to pursue a mission to help these people out, but how about being open about what is actually being done?



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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There is definitely oil and other resources, such as uranium in Darfur, and already suspicions that outside forces are fuelling the conflict. I am surprised there has not been a full-scale invasion yet, but I guess that covert ops are sometimes better.

Oil in Darfur? Special Ops in Somalia?

ETA: Notsofunnyguy beat me to it.


edit on 21-3-2011 by InvisibleAlbatross because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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I was not in favour of the war on Iraq but I have to say I think what were doing in Libya is justified, as soon as people started being literally massacred indiscriminately in Benghazi, it became clear how literally insane Gaddafi is. As long as this no fly zone goes no further I support it, the liberation of Libya should be down to the Libyan people.


Didn't we hear the same thing with Iraq, though? Just being honest. I'm not seeing any significant difference here that would make me support one but not the other.

There was the whole 'WMD' reasoning but also the 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' and other propaganda that it's being done 'for the people.' A new spin on the old 'think of the children.'

I also remember funny images being passed around of Bush on a missile with a caption 'I'm going to free the heck out of you.'

I definitely agree Gad and Hus are both tyrants but I don't believe we are/were there 'for the people.'


edit on 3/21/2011 by AshleyD because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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but there has been and still are special forces on ground in Libya, how do you think they got the target for the missiles? with SAS, and other country's specials lasering them from a few hundred feet away, before the attacks.




posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
Good to see Obama doing what MUST be done instead of being a wuss and "attempting to consider the thoughts and feelings of Everyone..." as people are dying. Its good to see the man let his suit fall to the side - and have his REAL uniform show. He is the Commander in Chief of the United States of America. My family members and friends who are still in service LIVES depend on GOOD DECISION making by you Mr. Pres.


Dont let them down!

edit on 21-3-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)


I believe we just averted a massacre



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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The U.N. serves rich, old, white males because behind the curtains it is run by rich, old, white males. Why would they invade Darfur? They inject children with vaccines that have HIV in order to control the black population in Africa.

Part of the Illuminati agenda is to make sure that powerful countries eventually crumble while keeping extremist regimes and non-whites under control. I'm sure if they could nuke all of Africa and South America without being caught, they would. But, since it's risky and a little too obvious, they have to kill masses amounts of people through stealth: toxic vaccines and other chemicals.

Happy 3rd illegal war America!



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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both wars were started on march 19 , March 19 is a date for pagan blood sacrifice to Moloch and Athena ,greek goddess of war



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