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Originally posted by KJV1611
More research from other thread. Read if you like, but these are just for me so I have all these answers in the same place.
Jesus Christ himself has already stated what the "Canon" is:
LUKE 24:27, 44
"And beginning at MOSES and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself."
"44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of MOSES, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. "
Law of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deut., Numbers...
Prophets: You know them all, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, etc...
Psalms: Job, Proverbs, Psalms, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon.
Most of the other books are History: Kings, Chronicles, Ruth, Ezra, etc.
So as you can see, the Canon is very much defined. Just because there are other books written during the same time, does not make them canon. So just because you don't know what Biblical Canon is, doesn't mean Christian don't.
LUKE 16:29, 31
"29 Abraham saith unto him, They have MOSES and the prophets; let them hear them.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not MOSES and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded"edit on 28-3-2011 by KJV1611 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by KJV1611
well it does seem a bit odd to me that god would be upset that they built a tall building since there were many other tall buildings and certainly mts, that were much taller. and if tall buildings were a problem, he'd have brought all the tall buildings down. i did some research on it in the original late akkadian language (cuneiform), during which it was called BABILU (EL=ILU), and strangely enough the glyph for ILU or EL in the word, which normally would coincide with god, in the gate of god phrase, is actually the same symbol for star. so then the phrase would read, gate of star. which didn't make sense, till i changed the order around and it read star gate.
And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
NKJV: "And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.
NLT: Bring a pair of every kind of animal—a male and a female—into the boat with you to keep them alive during the flood.
NIV: You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you.
ESV: And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female.
RVR: Y de todo lo que vive, de toda carne, dos de cada especie meterás en el arca, para que tengan vida contigo; macho y hembra serán.
NASB: "And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every kind into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.
RSV: And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.
ASV: And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
YNG: and of all that liveth, of all flesh, two of every [sort] thou dost bring in unto the ark, to keep alive with thee; male and female are they.
DBY: And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee: they shall be male and female.
WEB: And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee: they shall be male and female.
HNV: Of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the teivah, to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female.
VUL: et ex cunctis animantibus universae carnis bina induces in arcam ut vivant tecum masculini sexus et feminini
WLC: וּמִכָּל־הָחַי מִֽכָּל־בָּשָׂר שְׁנַיִם מִכֹּל תָּבִיא אֶל־הַתֵּבָה לְהַחֲיֹת אִתָּךְ זָכָר וּנְקֵבָה יִֽהְיֽוּ׃
LXX: καὶ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν κτηνῶν καὶ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἑρπετῶν καὶ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν θηρίων καὶ ἀπὸ πάσης σαρκός δύο δύο ἀπὸ πάντων εἰσάξεις εἰς τὴν κιβωτόν ἵνα τρέφῃς μετὰ σεαυτοῦ ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ ἔσονται
It was a field in area,
its walls were each 10 times 12 cubits in height,
the sides of its top were of equal length, 10 times It cubits each.
I laid out its (interior) structure and drew a picture of it (?).
I provided it with six decks,
thus dividing it into seven (levels).
The inside of it I divided into nine (compartments).
I drove plugs (to keep out) water in its middle part.
I saw to the punting poles and laid in what was necessary.
Three times 3,600 (units) of raw bitumen I poured into the
three times 3,600 (units of) pitch ...into it,
there were three times 3,600 porters of casks who carried (vege-
apart from the 3,600 (units of) oil which they consumed (!)
and two times 3,600 (units of) oil which the boatman stored
I butchered oxen for the meat(!),
and day upon day I slaughtered sheep.
I gave the workmen(?) ale, beer, oil, and wine, as if it were
so they could make a party like the New Year's Festival.
... and I set my hand to the oiling(!).
The boat was finished by sunset.
The launching was very difficult.
They had to keep carrying a runway of poles front to back,
until two-thirds of it had gone into the water(?).
Whatever I had I loaded on it:
whatever silver I had I loaded on it,
whatever gold I had I loaded on it.
All the living beings that I had I loaded on it,
I had all my kith and kin go up into the boat,
all the beasts and animals of the field and the craftsmen I
had go up.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
reply to post by undo
Sounds like Sitchin...there are a lot of "ifs" in there.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul These videos which taught me a lot about ship building really explain it best.
Originally posted by KJV1611
Originally posted by brindle
Why were all jesus drinking buddies declared saints?
Jesus never drank wine. This common misconception comes from the Gospel of John 2:1-10.
Read the story and tell me where he drunk wine.
Also, if he would have given his friends fermented wine, such as liquor as most people equate this with, he would have broken and old testament law.
"Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness! "
Anyone knows if grape juice sits out in the sun and has a chance to ferment, it turns to booze. New wine, which Jesus made was fresh grape juice. Read verse 10 again of John chapter 2 to see the old, and new wine contrast.
Last part of your question is simple. All Christians are saints. Once you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, you become a saint. No man can make another man a saint, regardless of what the catholic church teaches and worships.edit on 21-3-2011 by KJV1611 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
Another question...whys there so many contradictions in all versions of the bible?? If its gods word....why would he make so many mistakes and contradictions?
For example :
Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.