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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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I propose they continue the bible with saint obama.I read a passage from obama 2:13,all my children should be provided with welfare and food stamps,we going on vacation yeall,get the jet fired up.




posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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Oh, and so that we're clear, this is god talking:

Leviticus 25:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses in mount Sinai, saying


many under law also like to claim Jesus was the Angel of the Lord

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

Wherefore then serveth the law?.. it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels

Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust

unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son

again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever

to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour

he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Hi,

I will try to keep this reply brief if possible.


Originally posted by Cor Leonis
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You were right I did misquote. This scripture is what I was referring too. Yes the darkness does seek light. Angels of darkness have as a matter of fact transform themselves into messengers of light so as to do what they have done for millinia, deceive! That which is bad they say is good, and that which is good is bad!


I said those lost in the darkness See the Light and are attracted to it, which is different to saying the darkness does seek the light. Big difference in fact.

Yes. Some beings trying to hide from the Light, those that choose the darkness, can play a negative role as you say, and as scripture points out. And yet.....

Did you know that within each one there is Light? For the well seasoned observer it is plain to see no matter how hard they attempt to hide it. And it is this light within them that I reach into in order to begin their healing back into The Light.

Even moreso, every entity/being has a Signature Feel to them.. even the Living who Feel it as the gut feeling you get about people when first meeting them. In the realms of spirit it provides all the necessary information about the entity, no matter what Facade they wear.

Yes the Bible does not say this.. but I say this from expert experience in the field over 35+ years. Something that all those who contributed to the Bible did not have because it was against their Belief-System.

I was born with these tools fully formed. In words you will readily understand, I am but a Tool of your God.


Originally posted by Cor Leonis
"Did God say ye shall die? You shall not surely die, for God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes will be open knowing good and evil. You shall be as gods! (Satan to Eve)

Without looking at the above scripture in Genesis that was the gist of the conversation between Saten in the Garden and Eve.


Yes, that is as good as saying "God is lying to you". Which 'He' was. This God in the oldest source for Genesis is called "Enlil" and he did lie to the humans about who was the Bad One. It was 'Him' who was the evil minded one, the bloodthirsty one, the one who hated humans, the one who was psychopathic with unbalanced Ego.. yes, the exact same characteristics we see in the modern versions of Genesis.


Originally posted by Cor Leonis
The Devil is a lier and the Father of it! The dead you see are called familiar spirits, they are demonic and have knowledge and are very familiar with the deceased, moreso than the deceased was in being familiar with themselves. Because many of the dead thought they were right(eous) and many were deceived.

The road to destruction is wide!


Thank you for the concern shown, I do appreciate it.

The dead I see and work with are those portions of Souls that have shed the Physical Form, and due to their Beliefs or not realising they are "dead" are stuck right Here in houses, businesses and many other types of places.

Most do not see the world as it is now. Most see the world as it WAS for them once, or as they Believe it is. The same applies to those who leave this dense earthly space and become caught on their way to the Light in what is now called The Belief System Territories... which is something akin to your own personal hell. It is self-created again based on Beliefs.

When you can stand in the Light and watch these soul portions actually Light Up from the inside and Wake Up from their "Dream", then and only then can you KNOW anything with certainty about the Spirit realms... and it certainly won't be in any Bible. The last thing Religion wants from you is for you to Wake Up while you live in the flesh... for when enough humans do, everything we know and ever Believed will be changed.

And Yes, the wide path is a tricky one for sure.

The funny thing about the wide path is that almost everyone walks it.. otherwise it would not be the Wide Path. Few ever walk the thin, rocky, and difficult path in Solitude. Think about it.. millions of people all Believing in one thing.. walking the same path as Millions of other people.. preceeded by many more millions who walked those same paths before You.. they created the Wide Path.

I choose to walk the difficult path. I stumble and fall with regularity and yet I keep going because this is the only path my life was meant to take. The wide path of millions.. it has no Light for me.

I wish you well



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by undo
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can you reference this information please?
please don't reference the lost book of enki, as sitchin wrote that as a piece of creative fiction. it gave him the ability to pass ideas under the radar of his fans, without having to cite any real sources.


Not possible for me. I have only studied my mentors work.. never even read Sitchin because she (my old mentor) had major arguments with him during the 70's over some of his interpretations.

I don't have links to Online Repositories either despite being asked repeatedly over the years by scholars who supplied University links to later-age Sumerian translations for me to pinpoint information I shared. I could not find anything due to the pidgeon-holing of everything into nice neat sub-sections of "Mythology".

And, please don't ask for the old girl's name. Last time I supplied it scholars did a quick Google search and then immediately Burned her publicly for one of her retirement hobbies of UFO research. She is quite an old woman now, struggling for many years with throat cancer that she is losing the battle with. It is my hope she wills her work to me so that I can share the more important proofs she holds.

Sorry.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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I see the questions are starting to die down, and mainly arguments back and forth are cropping up. Let's keep this thread only for Bible questions, and answers from the Bible only. If not, your off topic. Any body still have questions I didn't answer about the Bible, from the Bible?



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by undo
if you're going to criticize a text, make sure you understand what the text is saying.


Last time I checked...I read the damn book several times and I even bothered to check the original language.



just as it is frustrating to find people being dishonest about other information, such as what darwin did in his last moments,


I'm not being dishonest. I'll admit I was mistaken about the rainbow thing, I'm mixing up mythologies.



you should also be honest enough to remove from your list of credible criticisms of the biblical texts, criticisms which are proven to be inaccurate.


So you're just going to call them inaccurate even though (aside from the rainbow thing) I can show that they're accurate?



if you can't or won't do that, all you're going to do is further the belief that people who hold your position are not interested in the truth/ remember, beneficial skepticism requires the position held actually has a basis in reality of the thing it stands in judgement of.


Well, I'm interested in truth, which is why I know that the Bible says that the Earth, which it claims is at the center of the cosmos, has a solid dome above it upon which the throne of god rests...



as a result, i'd like evidence that the bible claims there is a SOLID dome above the earth.


It's already been done by others.




I post that merely because it's an in-depth exploration that goes all the way down to the language of the text and cites specific examples.



i'd like evidence that the bible claims that noah's flood was a GLOBAL flood.



Genesis 7:4
For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.




i'd like evidence that disease CANNOT be caused by anything other than nature. ever.


So you're asking me to prove a negative claim? Instead of proving that non-natural causes for disease exist (by which I'm guessing you mean non-material), you're asking me to show that leprechauns aren't the cause of leprosy?



and i'd like evidence the text claims that rainbows cause rain


Sorry, mistook my myths there for a second. Wrong mythology. My bad. I still have evidence for the others.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Sorry Sir but with all your 35 years of experience, I cannot believe that what you are saying is the light of the Almighty. You have been deceived! Most of what you are saying is confusion! And The Almighty God, Jehovah is not the author of confusion!!!!



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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the text may say it in english but does it say it in the original language?
the word "all" for example, is not actually in the verses relating to "all the earth" in the noah's flood passages. that word was added by translators, as were several others that would've inidicated a global flood vs. a flood that covered "the land", which we can date to the time of the black sea flood.

also, as mentioned earlier, the earth is interchangeable with the land. so when
a verse says "earth", it's always a good idea to check the context and the original language to
be sure you're separating "land" earth from "global" earth.




So you're asking me to prove a negative claim? Instead of proving that non-natural causes for disease exist (by which I'm guessing you mean non-material), you're asking me to show that leprechauns aren't the cause of leprosy?


no, i'm saying the precedent for disease to have avenues into people's bodies, artificially, is not undocumented.

as far as the video you posted about the creation of the earth, i don't personally believe genesis 1 and 2 are events that happen immediately (in time) after each other, and as a result, view the creation verses as separated in time by large margins. any references to water already existing is also a point of debate for me as the original language calls it the abyss, the void, and more than one train of thought is running thru the text there, applying to more than one time frame.
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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Cor Leonis
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Sorry Sir but with all your 35 years of experience, I cannot believe that what you are saying is the light of the Almighty. You have been deceived! Most of what you are saying is confusion! And The Almighty God, Jehovah is not the author of confusion!!!!



Hi,

It's okay for you to disagree Cor, I still respect you as a human being no matter what you think of me.

I'm not confused, never have been when I let the Light guide me in all matters.

And I do not seek for you to replace one set of Beliefs with Believing me.. I only sow the seeds for the future.

Let me say that when you finally Stand in the Light, then you will Know for Yourself. And maybe then you will remember someone once told you these things, so that you don't get lost too.

I am but a Tool of your God.

Be well brother.

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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There were MANY gods in the bible.

Its obvious that 'god' is a term....more than likely for an extraterrestrial being ( as well as 'angel') and Lord is a rank, just like Captain, Commander, Chief..

God, Lord God, and God the Father (of Jesus)



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
I see the questions are starting to die down, and mainly arguments back and forth are cropping up. Let's keep this thread only for Bible questions, and answers from the Bible only. If not, your off topic. Any body still have questions I didn't answer about the Bible, from the Bible?


Yes - for the third time - kindly explain Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Lazarus Short

Yes - for the third time - kindly explain Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.


Revelation 2:9

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Looks like the verse is saying there is a group of people which say they are Jews, but are not. I can name about 6 religions that these could represent who STOLE all of the Hebrews laws, practices and procedures and incorporated them into their own religions:

1. Catholics (priests, sacrifices, robes, works for salvation)
2. Mormons (claim they came from Jews, works for salvation, prophets, polygamy)
3. Jehovah Witnesses (bringing in the kingdom, will inherit the world, etc.)
4. Kabbalist (a whole mess of stuff, ask Lucifer77 for more info if you want it)
5. Charismatics (snake handling, healing people, tongues, points of contact)
6. Muslims (Holy wars or genocide, prophets, prayer commanded multiple times a day, almost all the old testament laws, coverings for woman, etc.)

All of this is stolen straight from the Jews and applied to them selves and their own religion. Many more religions and Christian denominations can be named. These are called "Synagogue of Satan" in the Bible. The opposite verse to this is Rev 3:17.



Revelation 3:9
"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

This verse of course goes along with the latter's explanation, but notice "I will make them to come and worship before thy feet". These foolish wolf's in sheep clothing are told they will have to come worship before the only church that "kept God's words" and did not make their own scripture up with God's words as their base foundation.

Revelation 3:8
"I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.


I'm looking forward to seeing these false religions fall down before the True church of God, which Jesus Christ bought with his own Blood.

This church of "Philadelphia" was also the only church to keep God's words, and this was during the time line of when....the 1611 Bible was published. Go figure.


ACTS 20:28
"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath PURCHASED with his own blood."

Notice it is "GOD" that does this transaction. Who do you think God is? Who shed his blood for the church?
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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by KJV1611

Revelation 2:9

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Looks like the verse is saying there is a group of people which say they are Jews, but are not. I can name about 6 religions that these could represent who STOLE all of the Hebrews laws, practices and procedures and incorporated them into their own religions:

1. Catholics (priests, sacrifices, robes, works for salvation)
2. Mormons (claim they came from Jews, works for salvation, prophets, polygamy)
3. Jehovah Witnesses (bringing in the kingdom, will inherit the world, etc.)
4. Kabbalist (a whole mess of stuff, ask Lucifer77 for more info if you want it)
5. Charismatics (snake handling, healing people, tongues, points of contact)
6. Muslims (Holy wars or genocide, prophets, prayer commanded multiple times a day, almost all the old testament laws, coverings for woman, etc.)


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OK, that's not a bad guess, but none of these groups fit the verse EXACTLY. None of these six groups call themselves Jews. Can you admit the possibility that the people constantly calling themselves Jews in our present-day world might not be Jews at all? The blasphemy the verse speaks of may very well involve the contents of the Talmud. If you knew how evil parts of it were, it would open your eyes.

Keep in mind that I am not trying to be adversarial here, but to open your understanding. This is how I "pay it forward" for I once believed much as you do. The transition to my present understanding was difficult, but now the Bible makes more sense, as does history (His Story), and current events. As I am fond of saying, it all makes sense together, or it makes no sense at all...

Perhaps this will help:

www.realzionistnews.com...

Cheers, Laz
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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 12:04 PM
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First of all, I have always thought it was GOD, who would restore Israel in the latter times....not so much the USA or Britain in 1917.

As for you changing your believes about the Bible and Jews, remember, the Jews are counted as "enemies" during this church age, so I know what your saying, I really do.

I have studied the material in the site you posted, but I still believe what the Bible said. God will restore the Jews in his own time. Who is to say he hasn't been restoring them for the last 50 years?

I of course could be wrong, BUT FOR MY OWN PERSONAL SAFETY and out of "fear", I will always adhere to:

Genesis 12:3
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

So at least I can plead the Bible if God brings this up at the Judgment seat of Christ. Can't fault me for following his words.


EDIT: I would most definity add Jews that practice the Talmud and other mythical trash as number 7, to my list above, happily so. But just like Christians, not all of us are true believers. There are plenty of wolf's out there in sheep "hide".
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posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Genesis 12:3
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."


Could you explain what this means to you in your own words?




posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Basically it is "shown" by what America has been doing for Israel for the last 50 years. Except the Obama years of course....

It means to bless them, instead of constantly cursing them and blaming the world's problems on them: i.e. Hitler, almost all News Outlets, anti-semitics, white supremacists, black panthers, colleges, Texe Marrs, and ATS.



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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But haven't you been blaming the jews for this and that all through out this thread?




posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon

But haven't you been blaming the jews for this and that all through out this thread?



I'm sure you know this by now, but life is not black and white bud. I post what I read in the Bible when dealing with Bible questions.

No, I never blamed the Jews for anything. Yes, I am very Pro-Jew, but Yes, I also know they are some of the most greediest, godless, Bible rejecting people around. Want proof? Read the Gospels and the book of Acts. The end of Chapter 7 shows how Jews feel about what the Bible says about them.

Even Jesus himself said they constantly killed the prophets and were always backslidden. Although, knowing human nature as I do, this can be applied to anyone.

Anymore questions? Glad to see some of the Bible bashing has calmed down. Hopefully I have answered some questions you guys may have had, and if nothing else, spurred much Bible searching and personal reflection.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

There is neither Jew nor Greek... And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had never been born

For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls

And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons

For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.

Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it is laid over with gold and silver, and there is no breath at all in the midst of it.

Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;
To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!

thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

And ye were now turned, and had done right in my sight, in proclaiming liberty every man to his neighbour; and ye had made a covenant before me in the house which is called by my name: But ye turned and polluted my name, and caused every man his servant, and every man his handmaid, whom he had set at liberty at their pleasure, to return, and brought them into subjection, to be unto you for servants and for handmaids. The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, which passed between the parts of the calf

And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage)

which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar—

but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.
For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.


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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by KJV1611

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Originally posted by Akragon

But haven't you been blaming the jews for this and that all through out this thread?



I'm sure you know this by now, but life is not black and white bud. I post what I read in the Bible when dealing with Bible questions.

No, I never blamed the Jews for anything. Yes, I am very Pro-Jew, but Yes, I also know they are some of the most greediest, godless, Bible rejecting people around. Want proof? Read the Gospels and the book of Acts. The end of Chapter 7 shows how Jews feel about what the Bible says about them.

Even Jesus himself said they constantly killed the prophets and were always backslidden. Although, knowing human nature as I do, this can be applied to anyone.

Anymore questions? Glad to see some of the Bible bashing has calmed down. Hopefully I have answered some questions you guys may have had, and if nothing else, spurred much Bible searching and personal reflection.



I post what I read in the Bible when dealing with Bible questions.


this is actually the issue i have... you read your bible but you don't understand the lessons. And if you don't mind, i would appreciate it if you stop talking to me like i have no idea what im saying... Its a little insulting...thanks



Yes, I am very Pro-Jew, but Yes, I also know they are some of the most greediest, godless, Bible rejecting people around. Want proof? Read the Gospels and the book of Acts. The end of Chapter 7 shows how Jews feel about what the Bible says about them.


They....clasifying a race or a certain belief as...they...

Don't you see what im saying to you? It doesn't matter if they're black, white, chirstian. jew, muslim, handycapped, gay, sideways, backwards, whatever you have...they're just labels.



Even Jesus himself said they constantly killed the prophets and were always backslidden. Although, knowing human nature as I do, this can be applied to anyone.


Alright from this point on you are no longer allowed to use Jesus in any reference when talking to me...You've already said in several instances "following Jesus will land you in hell"....



Anymore questions? Glad to see some of the Bible bashing has calmed down. Hopefully I have answered some questions you guys may have had, and if nothing else, spurred much Bible searching and personal reflection


yes.... .....i have plenty of questions for you...

but i'll take it easy on you....for now



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