Originally posted by Holly N.R.A.
See if this is anything...I came up with a theory. People, like Pataky brag...sometimes they do it so well, and right out in the open few ever
notice...especially if he is an ex "spook". I found the writing below on the site that was linked and it contained some interesting points.
Dorthy Kigallin, so you said was found in her bed in a gown with a bolero blouse tied over it...something possibly a male would think looked good, if
she were too exposed in said gown. I also remember that a lot of the group DK was involved with as well as the TV show she was a panel member on
sauced it up right on the show...back in the late '50's guess it was ok to drink on the tube.
What does that have to do with Ms.Kilgallen's newspaper career ? Arlene Francis did not help her investigate any news stories. Do you
watch too much TV ? Please read on. Reading is fundamental.
Ms. Kilgallen was not found dead wearing a gown. It was a blue bed jacket, also known as a peignoir. Websites show you what it looked like.
Her hairdressers Marc Sinclaire and Charles Simpson said "peignoir" and "bed jacket" to phone callers many times throughout the 1990s and in
interviews videotaped in 2000.
Well...I've made notes in both bold and italics next to certain phrases...could this have been written about DK? Did she have a drinking
problem...although again, everybody drank a lot in the 50's and 60's being it was the drug of choice for the day and very sociable...booze loosens the
lips and makes one very trusting...loose lips sink ships so the saying goes...seems like DK had a problem keeping secrets.
As I said, the following is just an interpretation, nothing written in stone...but this guy is creative...anything he did or was involved in would
have been creative too...btw, good place to "hide in plain site" is anything to do with Christianity. The church takes care of their own.
Was neither thin nor very fat ... etc.
You missed another original poem that Ron Pataky added to his website. It's about the Sicilian mafia. Can you read it now that I have attached it as
a URL to this message ? Click on the thin horizontal bar at the top of the web page that contains the mafia poem. Then you can hear Ron recite it.
Several posters in this thread speculated about the U. S. government recruiting him to spy on or kill Dorothy Kilgallen. Why isn't anyone paying
attention to this poem about the Sicilian mafia ? Another source on Ron's mafia connection is a friend of Ms. Kilgallen's who is 86 years old going
on 87. He is Marlin Swing. He does not do any blogging or emailing, but you can write him a letter on paper at 245 East 35th Street # 11-C, New
York, NY 10016. If you promise to write first, then you can phone Marlin or his caretaker Darryl Ortega at (212) 684 - 7448.
Marlin has told several strangers over the years that one of the major New York syndicate figures, possibly Joseph Colombo Sr., asked the mobbed-up
movie producer Joseph E. Levine to recruit someone to spy on Dorothy Kilgallen. Some officials of New York's "five families" (Google that) wanted to
know where she was getting her information on Oswald, Ruby and Castro. Mr. Levine the producer, who depended heavily on newspaper critics in 1964,
spotted Ron Pataky's reviews in a Columbus, Ohio newspaper. Mr. Levine became impressed with the critic when they met at a movie industry event
attended by newspaper critics.
If you want to confirm this, remember Marlin Swing turns 87 in August. It would help if you sent Mr. Swing a paper copy of Ron Pataky's poem on the
Sicilian mafia. Ron's website has some poems that hint at a fantasy of poisoning a woman, but let's get to that in later posts. Start with Joseph E.
Levine. The first time he became a legend was in 1968 when The Graduate
did exceptionally well at the box office. The very beginning of the
movie displays "Joseph E. Levine presents" as a caption while Dustin Hoffman sits in his seat on a plane and the stewardess announces the plane's
arrival in Los Angeles.
Filming of the movie began circa February 1967, which was 15 months after Dorothy Kilgallen died. When she was alive, Mr. Levine needed all the
support from newspapers he could get.
Even during the filming of The Graduate
, his career was unstable. "Joe" Levine, who was CEO of Embassy Pictures, mysteriously lost the three
million dollar budget for the film, then the other producer Lawrence Turman started shopping for another studio, then Mr. Levine recouped the three
million. Filming began shortly after that. Did Joe have a brief conflict with one of his backers in the Five Families ?
Mr. Turman, now an 84-year-old USC professor of cinema, is the source on the story of the missing three million. He wrote a book that includes the
story. It was published in 2005. Joe Levine died in 1987 without any investigators having asked him about Dorothy Kilgallen or Ron Pataky. If you
find published or broadcast stories about him, you will learn about his interactions with actors, directors and producers only, not columnists or
You Tube has a video of Michael Caine reminiscing about Mr. Levine. They made the 1964 movie Zulu
, which did much better in the European box
office than in the United States. Americans associated Mr. Levine with "schlock" (such as a tawdry 1965 biopic of Jean Harlow) until The
made him seem classy. So he needed support from Ron Pataky and other newspaper critics.
Can anyone here separate the Kilgallen dimension of the conspiracy from Hollywood history ? Most people can't, and for that reason she has fallen
between the cracks of the legacy of the 1960s. People don't listen to or read what she actually said. She lives on with her questioning of game show
contestants. Yes, her name does turn up on hundreds of Oswald / Ruby websites, but nobody discusses what she actually said about those guys, or what
Ruby was quoted as saying in her Warren Commission scoop.
edit on 31-3-2011 by hopingwarmth because: More than an hour ago I worked hard on this long post. Then I signed out of ATS. I signed in more
than an hour later and was horrified to discover that some of my paragraphs are in the font and point size I chose but others aren't. Now that I'm in
edit mode, the preview makes the whole thing look perfect. I'm praying that's how it will look momentarily after the time allowed for editing
expires. Does your system finalize the fonts and point sizes after the editing time has expired ? I'm trying to share what I know about the
Kilgallen mystery, so maybe people will be kind enough to help me finalize this post.
edit on 31-3-2011 by hopingwarmth because:
Making sure the tops and bottoms of my letters don't overlap. They seemed to overlap in the preview.