Ron Pataky - The Possible CIA recruit responsible for the murder of Dorothy Kilgallen?

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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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Here are a couple of books he authored in 06' and 07'
www.paperbackswap.com...
edit on 22-3-2011 by addygrace because: different info




posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:34 AM
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Here is another magazine where is mentioned. Lana Turner was smitten by his good looks.
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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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Basically anything to do with JFK is so obvious, so out in the open, and yet people still can't fathom what is going on. I'd say if everyone knew the information about JFK, about 20 percent of the population (non-elite ties) would still not believe that their own government could kill a president. This is the real power behind the global elite, the ability to play off of people's irrational ignorance. The more you know about one conspiracy the more you know about others. Some people aren't ready yet. This is why it's so difficult to get people to wake up to 9/11 or recent events because their entire history is skewed. They, the global elite, are and will always be the revisionists.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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I found this by looking up Adam Ronald Potaky.
I quoted this from another messageboard. I did not limit it to 1 paragraph, because it is so groundbreaking that if read and followed up completely could open new doors in the JFK conspiracy!


As the thirtieth anniversary of the JFK assassination
approaches, I must tell the world about a 58-year-old man who can
identify the conspirators. What follows has never been published
before. I am a journalism student at Virginia Commonwealth University
who was born after the assassination. I don't have the money to
travel to New York City where I know of people who can testify that
this 58-year-old man holds the key. In the limited time I have had to
solicit media people who could expose this story, they have all
dismissed the idea as libelous. The Washington Post and the New York
Press (a free weekly) turned it down. My faculty has no pull.

So please, somebody, steal the following story! I'm a poor
student who must prepare for final exams. Can you send this along to
a journalist you know who can publish or broadcast it? He or she
knows that the best defense against libel is the truth, which is:

The JFK assassination conspirators recruited Ron Pataky, now 58,
to seduce and kill journalist Dorothy Kilgallen. Their motive was to
prevent her from printing the truth about November 22, 1963 in her
widely read newspaper. She had already published front-page stories
in newspapers around the country implicating Chief Justice Earl
Warren and the Justice Department in the cover-up. She worked closely
with Mark Lane, a lawyer who in 1964/65 was working on his
ground-breaking assassination book "Rush To Judgment." He gave
Kilgallen leads for her news stories. In the fall of 1965, she told
him and other friends that she was about to travel to Dallas, where
she expected to find evidence that would break the JFK case wide
open.

But on November 7, 1965, a newspaper columnist named Ron Pataky
waited for his imtimate friend Dorothy Kilgallen to arrive for a
prearranged meeting in the cocktail lounge of New York's Regency Hotel.
That night she appeared as usual as a panelist on the TV game show
called "What's My Line?". Millions of people around North America
saw her figure out the careers of two contestants as CBS broadcast
the series live from 10:30 to 11:00 pm. She then joined Bob Bach,
the producer of "What's My Line?", at a club called P.J. Clarke's,
whose employees later admitted having seen her. After midnight, she
left Bach to visit the cocktail lounge of the Regency Hotel (Park Ave.
and 61st St.), whose employees have never admitted what they saw.

One Regency employee, Harvey Daniels (press agent), did tell a
writer in 1976 that he saw Kilgallen enter the cocktail lounge at
about 1:00 am on November 8. But he did not pay attention to where or
with whom she sat. He left the building shortly thereafter. This
writer who interviewed him is Ms. Lee Israel, a veteran magazine
journalist whose conversations with Helen Gahagan Douglas and
Katherine Hepburn had appeared in Esquire and Saturday Review. When
Ms. Israel tried to interview other Regency employees for the
Kilgallen book she was working on, the management (Loews Hotels)
warned her away.

I found out earlier this month (November 1993) that several
employees of the Regency who were on duty that night still work
there. The only name I know is John Mahon, a bartender. He told me
that he and various waiters and bellhops will talk if you clear it
with Loews Hotels. The contact person, Debra Kelman, did NOT work
there in 1976 when Loews told Lee Israel to keep away.

The direct line to Debra Kelman is 212-545-2833. On the phone
she sounds too young to remember the assassination. But I don't
have the money to stay in New York to interview anyone.

What could you get out of an interview with a Regency employee?
Well, the official cause of Dorothy Kilgallen's death is an overdose
of barbiturates and alcohol, "circumstances undetermined." I
interviewed Ron Pataky and I believe he gave her a Mickey Finn in
that hotel lounge. When Loews Hotels warned away Lee Israel in 1976,
the media did not have the power it has today. Oprah Winfrey and
cable TV had not yet come along, and the JFK assassination was still
largely a taboo topic. Someone who approaches Loews and then
bartender John Mahon and other Regency employees may get better
results today.

You might wonder about contacting Ron Pataky. I already
interviewed him on the phone for three hours and taped it. In the
beginning of the conversation he became very upset when I asked about
his frequent stays at the Regency in 1964/65. He then rambled on
about his "close friendship" with Dorothy Kilgallen. He later
admitted to talking to her on the phone long distance five times a
week, often at three in the morning. He revealed that she made
overseas calls to him from a vacation she made to Europe, and she
sometimes used his Regency Hotel suite to change clothes before they
painted the town in New York. He says he wrote the lead paragraph to
one of her JFK articles. He first met her a year and five months
before she died, but he denies that they had an affair.

Adam Ronald Pataky was born on May 21, 1935, in Danville,
Illinois. His father owned a heating and air conditioning business.
When "Ron" was 15, the family moved to Columbus, Ohio. In high school
Pataky had journalistic ambitions. When Dwight Eisenhower came
through Columbus on a whistle-stop tour, Pataky interviewed him for
the high school paper. Pataky enrolled at Stanford University where
he made the football team and Phi Delta Theta. Many students at
Stanford and in that fraternity in the mid-1950s later became
successful politicians. But Pataky flunked out.

He returned to Columbus and graduated from Ohio State with a
degree in journalism in 1959. In 1961, he was hired as a film and
theater critic for a morning daily called the Columbus
Citizen-Journal. Nineteen years' worth of his columns are on
microfilm at the Library of Congress and various Ohio libraries. In
June 1964, Twentieth Century Fox sent him on a junket with 100 other
journalists to report on the European locations of three movies. The
group included Dorothy Kilgallen.

Pataky left his job with the Citizen-Journal in 1980 "by mutual
agreement" with editor Dick Campbell. The paper shut down in late
1985. A year after he departed, the paper ran an article about his
success as an artist-photographer. He sold his prints that were "a
peaceful look at outer space" to government officials around the
country (no names given.) Elderly actors like Lillian Gish and Red
Buttons also bought them with enthusiasm.

Ron Pataky today is a Christian counsellor in Columbus seeing
many clients. He works both for himself and Lighthouse Christian
Counselling. He tells people that he is now (in 1993) getting his
PhD. What they don't know is that he is using a diploma mill in
Newburgh, Indiana called Trinity Theological Seminary. The American
Council on Education knows it is a diploma mill. He also uses the
CompuServe network, which has headquarters in Ohio.

Please steal my story! Primary sources are:

Ron Pataky
5656 Hazelwood Rd.
Columbus, Ohio 43229 614-436-6079


Ms. Debra Kelman
Loews Hotels
667 Madison Ave.
New York, New York 10021 212-545-2833


Ms. Lee Israel
98 Riverside Dr. Apt. 2G
New York, New York 10024 212-724-1110


Mark Lane, Esq.
105 2nd St. NE
Washington, DC 20002 202-547-6700
(famous JFK researcher
who worked with Kilgallen)


Dick Campbell, Pataky's
boss at the paper from
1977-80. 614-459-4734


Robert Smith, editor of
the Columbus Dispatch from
1962 to the present, who
knows about trouble Pataky
had with the law. 614-461-8827


Available at many libraries:

Kilgallen, by Lee Israel. New York: Delacorte Press, 1979.
The New York Times did NOT review it and it sold poorly.
Pataky appears in the book as "the Out-of-Towner" because
Delacorte Press feared a libel suit. As I said before,
Israel claims in the book that the management of the
Regency Hotel forbid her to interview employees who still
work there.


THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR DEMOCRACY!
archive.humbug.org.au...



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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I've already posted the link to your quote on the previous page lol - unfortunately I was unable to quote.



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 06:55 AM
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Already linked.
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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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Picture
It seems odd he would be the murderer. The linked picture is the second time he is linked with a famous actress. He was with a lot of women, Dorothy being one. Why recruit this guy? I guess the flip-side is why not recruit this guy?



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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www.puppstheories.com...

Seven days after Kilgallen's loss, Dr. James Luke, a New York City medical examiner, said she died from "acute ethanol and barbiturate intoxication, circumstances undetermined." That was not a common phrase for his office to use. An autopsy showed her to be in surprisingly good health with no pathology, only "minimal coronary arteriosclerosis" and "no significant stenosis or occlusion." There was no evidence of a heart attack but there was a bruise on her right shoulder. (Back in March, she had fractured her left shoulder.)


Dr. Luke said that the combination of alcohol and barbiturates had caused depression of Dorothy's central nervous system and that this had caused her heart to stop. Dr. Luke would not speculate about the form in which Kilgallen had taken the barbiturates. "We'd rather leave that up in the air," he said. "We don't want to give that out because ... well, just because." Even though the circumstances of her death were listed as "undetermined," for some reason the police never bothered to try to determine them. They closed the case without talking to crucial witnesses.


Since Dr. Luke had gone to the scene the day of Dorothy's death and then did her autopsy, it would have been customary for him to sign her death certificate. But he did not do so. Instead, it was supposedly signed by Dr. Dominick DiMaio. Asked about this, Dr. DiMaio was nonplussed. "I wasn't stationed in Manhattan [where Kilgallen died]," he asserted. "I was in Brooklyn. Are you sure I signed it? I don't see how the hell I could have signed it in the first place. You got me. I don't know why. I know nothing about the case. I never handled it."

Dr. DiMaio denies signing Kilgallen's death certificate for Dr. James Luke.

ETA: also from the above link

According to author Lee Israel, Dr. Charles Umberger, director of toxicology at the New York City Medical Examiner's office, privately suspected Dorothy had been murdered, and had inculpatory evidence to prove it. He remained silent, Israel theorizes, because he understood the political implications of the matter and he wanted leverage over Dr. Luke, in an internecine feud. In 1968, he asked a chemist who worked closely with him as his assistant, to use some newly available technology to analyze tissue samples he had retained from Kilgallen's autopsy, as well as the glass from her nightstand. Though Israel interviewed this chemist in 1978, she did not print his name. However, we can now report that he is John Broich. The new tests turned up traces of Nembutal on the glass, but this was not the same as what was found in her blood. The more precise tests on the tissue samples were able, for the first time, to particularize a deadly mix of three powerful barbiturates in her brain: secobarbital, amobarbital and pentobarbital. Broich told Israel that when he gave his findings to his employer, Dr. Umberger grinned and told him to "keep it under your hat. It was big."
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Pataky also wrote poetry. One poem he wrote (after Kilgallen death) was chillingly titled 'Never Trust A Stiff At A Typewriter'.
www.puppstheories.com...

And Pataky certainly didn't stanch the speculation about himself when he published a poem called "Never Trust A Stiff At A Typewriter." In it, he asserts there's a "way to quench a gossip's stench" that "never fails." He notes, "One cannot write if zippered tight" and that somebody who's dead can "sell no tales!" Some see in these lines a chilling reference to Dorothy and the way she died. But Ron says he's written 2,000 poems and asks: "How in the hell did anyone come up with that one?"
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I've tried to find the actual whole poem but so far i haven't been successful. Can anyone else find it and post? I would be interested to read the whole of it.
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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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Dorothy's FBI Files
A few FBI files on Kilgallen released under the FOIA



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rising Against
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There is nowhere to look.


I disagree. I think the truth will always be out there somewhere, and that's why we shouldn't ever stop looking.


NEVER give up on your quest for the truth Agent Mulder


Although in the X-files, you do know it was the cigarette smoking man that assassinated Kennedy !!




posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by uk today

NEVER give up on your quest for the truth Agent Mulder



Oh, I won't.


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posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Phew, still here then RA?


I can't take the stress lol



posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by doobydoll
reply to post by Rising Against
 


Phew, still here then RA?


I can't take the stress lol





posted on Mar, 22 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by addygrace
Here are a couple of books he authored in 06' and 07'
www.paperbackswap.com...
edit on 22-3-2011 by addygrace because: different info


Apologies If I'm missing something really obvious here (which I'm sure I am,
), but how did you come to know those books were authored by the Ron Pataky discussed in this thread? It doesn't appear clear to me.

Interesting info from some of your other links too btw! It's really great that members are coming together trying to gather information on this fascinating "lesser known" conspiracy like this.



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Awsome! so who do you think she was on the cusp of identifying? please dont spend a whole thread saying all the names of everyone involved claimed in the movie like that other thread I read related to this. Have you read "The man who knew too much" by Dick Russel about Richard cas nagel?



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by TDurdan
reply to post by Rising Against
 


Awsome! so who do you think she was on the cusp of identifying? please dont spend a whole thread saying all the names of everyone involved claimed in the movie like that other thread I read related to this. Have you read "The man who knew too much" by Dick Russel about Richard cas nagel?


Well, It was after the interview with Jack Ruby, the one where no-one in the world was present apart from Kilgallen and Ruby himself, where she seemed to get excited and start to believe she would seriously crack this case wide open. And don't forget that Ruby once indirectly claimed the man responsible was Lyndon B. Johnson as he famously claimed the culprit was: " Well, the answer is the man in office now" and he also said that if Adlei Stevenson was VP, there would have been no assassination of JFK.

Here is the video:



And yes, I'm actually in the middle of writing up a thread on the 100+ victims of the aftermath of the assassination also. Why wouldn't you want me to write this thread though? Personally, I don't think they should be forgotten.

And No, sorry, I haven't read that book. What did you think of it though?



posted on Mar, 25 2011 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by filosophia
Basically anything to do with JFK is so obvious, so out in the open, and yet people still can't fathom what is going on. I'd say if everyone knew the information about JFK, about 20 percent of the population (non-elite ties) would still not believe that their own government could kill a president. This is the real power behind the global elite, the ability to play off of people's irrational ignorance. The more you know about one conspiracy the more you know about others. Some people aren't ready yet. This is why it's so difficult to get people to wake up to 9/11 or recent events because their entire history is skewed. They, the global elite, are and will always be the revisionists.


That's probably why I've gotten so engrossed in it myself, lol. It's just so blatantly obvious this is a conspiracy - yet so many people haven't looked into it, or are even aware of it. It's amazing.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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I think your determination, your search to uncover the truth in ALL the threads you do is truly an inspiration to us all RA !!

The time and effort you put into research is one day going to pay off, I just know it is. Have you ever considered becoming an investigative reporter because IMO you would be awesome at it ???

Keep up the good work baby, and never give up on that pursuit of the truth, its out there !!



xx



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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Keep up the good work baby, and never give up on that pursuit of the truth, its out there !!


Writing up the next JFK thread as we speak.


xx



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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First post to "abovetopsecret." I notice you reposted the photograph of Dorothy Kilgallen with Ron Pataky that is seen on many other websites.

On the weekend of Saturday, April 16 / Sunday 17 I will have access to a high quality Jpeg of that photo with a lot of detail that cannot be found on any website. You can see more detail in their faces. Would you please provide me with an email address so I can email you the Jpeg at that time ? Thanks.






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