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SCI/TECH: Hydrogen on Demand - The Age of "Big Oil" Power May be Over.

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posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:39 AM
A company (Emerging Technologies) from St. Louis claims to have developed a device that can generate hydrogen on demand from ordinary water with low voltage. The claims are extraordinary, but it looks and sounds convincing so far.
Emerging Technologies today announced a breakthrough FLASH HYDROGEN GENERATOR that is poised to challenge OPEC. The device was described as small enough to be held in your hand while running cool to the touch with only a milliamp power draw when the breakthrough battery enhancement circuitry is in place. This hydrogen generator's fuel source?? Water! Even salt water! Plug it in, and in less than 2 seconds you have a blue flame. The output of the system is pure H2O, so not only does the device act as a hydrogen generator, but also as a cheap low power desalinator!

This is revolutionary because no longer will it be expensive to generate hydrogen, no longer will we require costly hydrogen infrastructure, and no longer will we have to fear the rolling hydrogen bombs that are compressed hydrogen fuel tanks. The hydrogen instead is generated on demand and not stored or accumulated anywhere. You can crash, and break the system into a thousand bits, and have no fear of hydrogen fuel based fire! With widespread use of this technology, our roads could be safer than ever before, with no more need for gas tanks, trucks, pipelines, or related infrastructure.

This is real. A major world leader is visiting the company today. A major Indy/CART racing team is getting behind them as well. William Alexander, CEO of Emerging Technologies says that the device will sell for less than $600 retail, prototypes are getting installed into vehicles and actual production begins in less than 100 days! He also says that they are NOT going to sell this technology to big oil so that the technology ends up shelved and unavailable. They are committed to getting this technology to the world.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

As far as I can tell, this looks and sounds legit. However, the incredible desire I have for this to be true may be clouding my analysis. It just sounds too good to be true.
Can anyone validate this?
Here's the link for the company making the product:



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[edit on 7-22-2004 by Valhall]

posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 05:02 AM
Using hydrogen / oxygen combustion to create the energy needed for further extraction of the gasses from water runs at about 67% energy efficiency (with distilled water) meaning it is non self-sustaining. Unless they came upon a really, really revolutionary technique this can't be true.

posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 08:11 AM
It does seem a little hard to swallow.

The transcript involving the panelists seems to be rather absent of techno-talk. The website is amazingly sparse of info aswell.

posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 11:00 AM
It's hard to believe, in theory the energy is constant but can have many forms. In Hidrogene cells the H2 combining with O2 produce a certaine quantity of electricity. They made the inversed process. With a 100% eficiency the energy needed for the production of H2 is the same that the hydrogene cell produce. But it's almost impossible to obtain 100% eficiency, some energy is lost by heat, vibration, magnetic energy, ... But if it really work's it can be a way to recycling the H2O realesed by the hidrogene cells and the end of the oil empire.

posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 11:05 AM
This sounds a bit like Aqua Fuel and with distilled water it supposedly get over 100% efficiency. Here is the link

INPUT=Watt hr/Litre of our generator = 5400/(40*60)= 2.25 Whr/Litre

OUTPUT=COH2 quoted energy = 380 BTU/cf = 3.93 Whr/Litre

Fuel Conversion efficiency = 3.93/2.25 = 175%, COP=1.75

This confirms the gas production process efficiency is overunity.

And here is the chemical composition analysis done by NASA

Hydrogen 46.483 %
Carbon Dioxide 9.329
Ethylene 0.049
Ethane 0.005
Acetylene 0.616
Oxygen 1.164
Nitrogen 3.818
Methane 0.181
Carbon Monoxide 38.370
Total 100.015

And here is a comparision of Aquafuel compared to regular Gasoline

posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 03:31 AM
Did anyone take the time to read the orginal url? This sounds too hokey. The last reply to the article imho has some merrit.

posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 04:22 AM
There is the possibility that our understanding of the energy states of Hydrogen are incorrect. This would explain why rain water seems to hold more energy in its bonds than ordinary tap water. There are also the cold fusion (incorrect name!) experiments which would also indicate some odd energy states. If (big if) that is the case then the "excess" energy is coming from the transfer of the Hydrogen from a high to lower energy state and not simply the traditional energy locked in the H-O chemical bonds.

Of course this could be complete bollocks only time will tell. So far time has been on the side of bollocks. However, I have seen a change in the nature of these ZPE style discoveries so I suspect that there really may be something in this. Look at the admitted interest shown by the military, NASA etc in ZPE, Cold fusion stuff and one has to wonder what is really going on in secret ?


posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 09:10 PM

Originally posted by jammerman
This hydrogen generator's fuel source?? Water! Even salt water! Plug it in, and in less than 2 seconds you have a blue flame. The output of the system is pure H2O, so not only does the device act as a hydrogen generator, but also as a cheap low power desalinator!

Don't bank on this being a "stunning Breakthruogh". Anybody can produce hydrogen with a battery or DC electrical source. Something has to produce electricity to break the hydrogen and oxygen bonds. As for producing hydrogen from salt water, you don't produce hydrogen gas and oxygen gas, you produce hydrogen gas and chlorine gas plus sodium hydroxide.

Sodium hydroxide is caustic soda or lye, a very strong alkali compound. This would have to be disposed of or used in some way.

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