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Dang right i am having fun with this! Its like sitting in a lawnchair with a six pack of pabst blue ribbon and watchin bugs get zapped in the bug zapper and then your neighbor gettin drunk and peeing on the bug zapper because he says he is tougher than a bug. Yee Haw! this whole post was allegory and insert atheist, christian, bible, disinfo' and aliens wherever you want in my bug zapper statement. BTW I asked a few theologians the questions that the OP asked a few years back and I got answers of the trinity and angels to satan and god were buddies and they fell away from friendship. Hell if I know but it it makes for an interesting enigma
Originally posted by Josephus23
You guys have fun with this.
If anyone wishes to actually engage in an academic discussion of this issue then, once AGAIN, I invite you to click on the link in my signature.
Hasta.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
God has always been a male and female figure. The Jews always viewed it that way. but the Holy Spirit was never this mother. The Holy spirit is just Christ in us all. This is what Jesus said.
While the trinity is never spoken of, it is implied. God and Jesus are one and yet not. Jesus never claims to be God as the same, but he says they are the same. The Holy Spirit is written as the same as Christ, but not the same. Just the same nature. What exactly else can you make of that?
As for female. It is written why. Man needed a helper. And equal. An image of the dualistic nature of God as he is. Thus woman. There needs no archetype, just like Man's archetype, Jesus, never came around until thousands of years later. And he was meant to be for both male and femaleedit on 21-3-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jim Scott
reply to post by ChaosComplex
Congratulations on your beginning study of the Bible. (I noticed the second post on this thread was Christian-bashing, by the way).
The answer to your questions:
1. Kind was God's way of saying specie, but it is somewhat different than specie today because some can cross-reproduce.
2. Us and our refer to the holy trinity - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. When man was made, he was made in the image of God in his spirit. Notice that there is plural in the reference, but one in the image.
That answers the question. If there are questions about the authenticity of the Trinity, there are plenty of sites you can Google to show how that works.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
God has always been a male and female figure. The Jews always viewed it that way. but the Holy Spirit was never this mother. The Holy spirit is just Christ in us all. This is what Jesus said.
While the trinity is never spoken of, it is implied. God and Jesus are one and yet not. Jesus never claims to be God as the same, but he says they are the same. The Holy Spirit is written as the same as Christ, but not the same. Just the same nature. What exactly else can you make of that?
As for female. It is written why. Man needed a helper. And equal. An image of the dualistic nature of God as he is. Thus woman. There needs no archetype, just like Man's archetype, Jesus, never came around until thousands of years later. And he was meant to be for both male and femaleedit on 21-3-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
its not that we get angry or defensive about this.
But when you call god and alien being, Or some pysudo astronaut man, Its kind of degrading against the thought of God, because why would we need to look anywhere else to our creator>? we are made in HIS IMAGE, just look in the mirror, He is closer than our skin, because gods spirit is in us.
I have questioned the thought of elohim being an ET, but that just dosent make sense, Because we know who God is, He sent his son to the earth, God in the flesh.
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
I think you might have just worded incorrectly and meant to refer directly to the male/female aspects in opening line, but yes, the trinity is possible explanation for use of 'elohim'. Elohim is a plural form meaning 'mightly ones', etc., with El being the singular.
In the shema israel, a plural form is also used for "one": 'Hear, O Israel, the LORD our god, the LORD is one" (Deut. 6.4). The word translated "one" is echad, which is a composite singular, like a single crowd being made of a lot of separate individuals, and so on. If they wanted to say there is only a single, solitary entity composing "the LORD", the correct hebrew would have been yichad.
Sorry, pendantic nature kicking in, I think you were just aiming at the other target and got that mixed in.
Originally posted by BenWoodsYcc
I personally dont believe in god, you really think there is one being who created evrything? he has 10 things you must not do or you will go to a place of fire, pain and torture, but he loves you?
Ancient civilisations around the world tell of gods who came from the skys to mate with earthlings?
Christianity is a forced religeon taught to you while you are young, obviously telling a 4 year old if they lie they will burn in hell is harsh to say the least.
God and jesus are not who they are portrayed today, too much evidence points to other theories.
Originally posted by BenWoodsYcc
Also genesis comes from ancient sumeria (now iraq) and was given to them by "Gods who came from the sky".
The bible you read today has been rewritten by the catholic church and evrything they dont want you to know has been taken out.