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Originally posted by 2012king
reply to post by SuperiorEd
so we are all in somebodys head? come on, im sure you can do better than that. do you not have a theory that is not designed and written in such a way that it is impossible to prove?
if god exists he was created. no matter what he is, be it alien or earth itself he was created by something.
Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
reply to post by Akragon
Actually the concept of evil and good, Came from the fruit of the tree knowledge of good and evil rofl. Its written in genesis, Cause man ate the fruit and sinned against God, Theres eyes were opened to what is right and what is wrong, There ya go
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
It's called faith. If it were fact, there would be no faith. Compare this to God as the author of a story. Instead of telling us the story as fact, He allows us to live within the story and have a unique role to play within the story. We can control nothing apart from our belief. All our actions only engage a law within the universe that answers our action. God is in total control. Free will is only a choice to believe as you witness the story. 'Us', 'Our' is irrelevant to what we are in relation. Faith is the substance of what is hoped for. Love is what remains. 1 Corinthians 13. Faith, Hope and LOVE is what we are here to witness. God is the judge and Christ is the advocate. Satan, whatever he is, is the adversary to overcome. I assume there will be a twist at the end of the story that we never expected. God is an amazing author.
Originally posted by ZiggyMojo
A common trend I've seen in this thread:
Many self-proclaimed Christians have attempted to answer the OP's question of who is "us" and "our".
There have been about 15 different answers to that, ranging from "God and Jesus", "The Trinity", "God and Angels" etc etc etc. All of you have spoken with a manner of "Well, as a matter of fact".. And spoke your words as though you know for certain. You all subscribe to the same religion, yet none of you can agree on what the Bible and "word of god" is saying. This is a common theme in Christianity as a whole.. How many different denominations are there? They all read the same book or a derivative of.. None of them teach the same thing. Catholicism is very ritualistic and Southern Baptist is all about the living word and the now. They both talk about heaven and hell, but how you get there is skewed from one to the other. Catholicism is much more devout. Is Baptist the lazy mans Christianity? I think not. At least not if you ask a Baptist. I bet many of you have been asked if you are a Christian and you have replied, "Yes!"... But you didn't feel the need to specify what denomination... None of them are the same, none of them teach the same exact thing. They may be similar but there is always a glaring difference. Why listen to someone else in a "sometimes" black suit read and regurgitate the information from a book to you and choose the way you interpret it? Why not do it yourself? It would be equally as productive and probably more informative. How are you so certain that a non-Christian is incorrect, when you cannot even decide who is right within your own belief?
edit on 21-3-2011 by SuperiorEd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ChaosComplex
"1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."
Originally posted by ChaosComplex
"1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Originally posted by hdutton
The more I read, the confuseder I get.
I thought I had read about all the creatures on earth, except those in the ark with Noah, being drownd in the great flood.
If this be true, how were there any of these hybreds of "the sons of God" left to be killed by the Hebrew people?
The Hebrew were not established as a people until after they left Egypt; or atleast after the cutting of the covenent with Abraham.
This is a long strech of time.
Were they killed by the flood or did they simply lie dormant for a few thousand years?
I think it helps people make a better argument if they keep their facts and time lines straight.
I seem to remember reading somewhere in the Bible, that it was a man's faith which is required as well as his works to be admitted into heaven. To me, faith is one of those things which can not be "beaten" into someone.
If that were so the Spainish Inqusition did more for the kingdom of heaven than all the preachings of Jesus.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by PoorFool
And if you are still affected by time itself, then you are not God. You are a member of the physical universe.
Another part of the bible does describe aliens. and makes a clear division between them. 1 Corinthians 15