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Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Would a loving Jesus or God wait this long before reappearing?
Would he continue to allow a new holocaust every year?
What exactly do you propose God should do if He were to appear?
God is supposedly within everyone of us, yet we do not hear his voice. What makes you think we would pay attention if God appeared somewhere in the world among us?
Originally posted by autowrench
I have often wondered about what people call "God." I too think the whole religion thing, and by that I mean any religion that follows a "book." I believe strongly that the Romans wrote the New Testament, every bit of it, and no doubt made most of the stories up as they went along. As for Yesuah, at last count there were 16 of them, and not a one was a God, and not a one started a religion, or inspired a book. Link
A very wise woman said to me, when I was but a child...."if that which you seek cannot be found inside.... it will never be found outside." Well, I found the Father and Mother deep inside, and got to know them very well. I know they are not the Ultimate Divinity, but they have a connection to the Ultimate Divinity. I realized that everyone of humanity are Gods, and Goddesses in their own right, you are all in training down here on Earth. Humanity will have to Ascend through several lower dimensions before coming even close to the Divine.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
God actually anticipated this objection and had Peter write bout it explicitly,
“The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. ” (2 Pe 3:9)
Jesus hinted at his long absence in his parables. The parable about the bride (the church) and the bridegroom is an example,
“As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. ” (Mt 25:5)
By the looks of things it will not be much longer.
Humm, its quite strange you would say something like that not really knowing my beliefs and or those beliefs of Christians in general.Fact is God is not a christian concept per -se, hes a human concept, and all humans are 'hard-wired' intellectually to philosophize.Whats a better concept to use our intellect on than God?
If you ever get your head out of god's ass, we will talk.
Sure, there are countless denominations with relatively small differences however, you should remember that (or I should tell you) what we are only concerned here with Trinitarian and non-trinitarian.My personal belief would be that non-trinitarians are not christian.And there's really only a handful of those.
Thanks for explaining the Christian beliefs but you should remember that there are many different Christian sects and they are all at each others throat.
You could ignore some water walking flying dude and ignore whatever he was saying?
Hmm.
Originally posted by Theophorus
reply to post by Greatest I am
Humm, its quite strange you would say something like that not really knowing my beliefs and or those beliefs of Christians in general.Fact is God is not a christian concept per -se, hes a human concept, and all humans are 'hard-wired' intellectually to philosophize.Whats a better concept to use our intellect on than God?
If you ever get your head out of god's ass, we will talk.
To say that my head is up Gods ass, is a oxymoron in the least.Your smarter than that.
Sure, there are countless denominations with relatively small differences however, you should remember that (or I should tell you) what we are only concerned here with Trinitarian and non-trinitarian.My personal belief would be that non-trinitarians are not christian.And there's really only a handful of those.
Thanks for explaining the Christian beliefs but you should remember that there are many different Christian sects and they are all at each others throat.
Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by Greatest I am
You could ignore some water walking flying dude and ignore whatever he was saying?
Hmm.
Yes, I would definitely ignore someone who flaunts their power over physical laws to try and impress the public.
If God were to "appear" simultaneously to everyone in the world, I speculate that it would be more in the form of a personal epiphany, a realization from within oneself of whatever God wishes to be understood. However, each individual mind would also need to be receptive to such an epiphany, and as we are all at varying degrees of receptiveness, I doubt such a worldwide event would ever happen.
Good for you but I think that you would be there with your hand out the same way most would be
Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by Greatest I am
Good for you but I think that you would be there with your hand out the same way most would be
How could a soul be anything but humble in the presence of God?
Just from traditional thinking. Christians do not even think that his use of genocide is evil or immoral. A stupid notion but they maintain it.
Only if you ignore Jesus saying that the time of the end was at hand. Good cherry picking though on your part.
Does God get his wish that none perish or is his will somehow thwarted? If he gets his wish, and a miracle working super God always would, does that mean that there is no hell. After all, if all are saved, what would God need with a hell.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just from traditional thinking. Christians do not even think that his use of genocide is evil or immoral. A stupid notion but they maintain it.
On what basis do you claim it is immoral? Are you saying there are objective moral values?
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just from traditional thinking. Christians do not even think that his use of genocide is evil or immoral. A stupid notion but they maintain it.
On what basis do you claim it is immoral? Are you saying there are objective moral values?
On the basis that it is better to grant life than death.
I am saying that it is immoral for a God to kill when it is just as easy for him to cure those he thinks defective.
Especially if he, as Bible god does, professes to love the one's he is killing. Murdering, if like me, you do not see how small children and babies could deserve to have their lives ended.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Greatest I am
Only if you ignore Jesus saying that the time of the end was at hand. Good cherry picking though on your part.
Not really... you would have to give me the example you are referring to there are few that are misunderstood.
Does God get his wish that none perish or is his will somehow thwarted? If he gets his wish, and a miracle working super God always would, does that mean that there is no hell. After all, if all are saved, what would God need with a hell.
God created us to be moral agents not robots. The fact that God wishes or wills that all people should be saved does not necessarily imply that all will respond to the gospel and be saved. We must certainly distinguish between what God would like to see happen and what he actually does will to happen. It is clear in scripture that only a few will be saved and the majority will go to hell. But ultimately that is up to you. "because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Ro 10:9)
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Greatest I am
Just from traditional thinking. Christians do not even think that his use of genocide is evil or immoral. A stupid notion but they maintain it.
On what basis do you claim it is immoral? Are you saying there are objective moral values?
On the basis that it is better to grant life than death.
I am saying that it is immoral for a God to kill when it is just as easy for him to cure those he thinks defective.
Especially if he, as Bible god does, professes to love the one's he is killing. Murdering, if like me, you do not see how small children and babies could deserve to have their lives ended.
Regards
DL
God didn't write the bible my friend....men with agendas did.
God has no reason to kill anyone, this is just lack of understanding honestly