@Soficrow; as per your original statement: I do agree there is a link between earthquakes and magnetosphere - but rather the opposite from your direction. The magnetosphere is affected by solar events; such might cause a chain reaction through all layers of atmosphere and eventually to earth and if conditions are right - it might trigger a quake. In retrospect the quake will cause a ripple effect back to magnetosphere; resonance. Especially if the quake is a horizontal movement like Japan.
NOT all solar events cause earthquakes;
NOT all earthquakes are triggered by solar events;
NOT all earthquakes have an effect to magnetosphere.
ALL solar events do affect the magnetosphere.
I think we mainly agree - I am especially interested in the resonance, or "feedback loop" as I described it earlier. …I was very surprised to discover that the earth's magnetic field was not disrupted significantly before the Japan quake - only after.
According to the USGS, the Japan quake occurred at 05:46:23 UTC. However, the NICT Space Weather site doesn't show any disruptions in the magnetic field on March 11 until 20:00 UTC - about 14 hours after the earthquake occurred. These disruptions seem to have continued almost unabated until the past week.
A powerful solar flare on March 9 did not come near earth but NICT shows minor disruptions between 13-14:00 UTC and at 20:00 UTC. A weak coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth's magnetic field on March 10th around 06:30 UTC - the field was minimally disrupted at that time, and again around 13:00UTC and between 20-22:00UTC.
NASA: 03.11.11 …a CME strike on March 10, 2011 …resulted in a G1-class geomagnetic storm.
…March 9th ended with a powerful solar flare. …Some material was surely hurled in our direction, but probably not enough for significant Earth-effects.
…on March 10, 2011 around 06:30 UT, a CME did strike a glaceing blow to Earth's magnetic field.
…After four years without any X-flares, the sun has produced two of the powerful blasts in less than one month: Feb. 15th and March 9th. This continues the recent trend of increasing solar activity associated with our sun's regular 11-year cycle, and confirms that Solar Cycle 24 is indeed heating up, as solar experts have expected. Solar activity will continue to increase as the solar cycle progresses toward solar maximum, expected in the 2013 time frame.
The high frequencies associated with solar storms get public attention because of their potential to disrupt technology - but the pre- and post storm low frequencies may have more of a geophysical effect, albeit slower and less apparent.
Of note:
1. Low, extremely low (ELF) and ultra-low (ULF) frequencies occur 24 hours before a solar storm and also, after the storm.
2. ELF and ULF are the frequencies associated with earthquakes; studies show ELFs and ULFs occur before quakes (when they do); there is too much noise to determine the source of post-quake frequencies.
My main questions here:
1. Do the pre- and post solar storm frequencies - low, ELF and ULFs - have more of a geophysical impact than the high frequencies that occur during the actual solar storm?
2. Do the pre- and post solar storm low frequencies initiate a cascade, and a feedback loop where quake-associated low frequencies and storm-associated low frequencies establish a resonance?
reply to post by TrueAmerican
…why don't you tell that to the millions of Japanese that are suffering terror each and every time one of those 5+ aftershocks hits? Why don't you ask THEM if the energy value matters …?
…It all matters.
Yes, it all matters.
Even leaving aside the very real human considerations, the planet is a complex system - interdependent, interconnected, interactive, responsive.
It is a HUGE mistake to think that any "local" event or dynamic is, or can be, isolated from the whole. …Puterman's oft-cited "Bigger and More is Better Law" may apply more suitably to certain biological functions than earthquakes - because as you say, it all depends on your perspective.
From my perspective, we're on a planet peppered with nuclear reactors, NASA confirms that Solar Cycle 24 is indeed heating up, solar flares can trigger quakes although we don't know how, quakes trigger quakes and so do all kinds of industrial activities - and gawdknows what other forces and dynamics might be in play.
Time to ignore the damage-control dogma, or call it for what it is - and WAKE UP!
reply to post by PuterMan
Ridicule, contempt, attacks on others' credibility, and posting a few razzle-dazzle smoke-and-mirrors graphs without the background data do NOT constitute "discussion." …I do NOT worship "experts" or blindly accept whatever they say. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for 2 1/2 pages on this thread.
You've spent the entire thread defending IAEA and oil/gas industry dogma. I question your position, conclusions, motives, agenda - and your so-called "data."
…how can the number of earthquakes matter when the energy is logarithmic?
Because the earth is a complicated, intricate, complex system - where something happens, and when, is at least as important as how much. …Also, Why did it happen? What exactly was it that happened? What kinds of cascades might be triggered?
The evidence shows that quakes trigger quakes, as do seismic testing, oil and gas drilling, hydro power dams, nuclear testing and more. Granted, it can't be predicted where the effects will be felt, or how bad they will be, but the fact there will be effects is known.
Given that the industrial assaults on our planet's geophysical integrity have only gotten worse and more frequent over the past 30 years, AND that the planet now is peppered with nuclear reactors - the situation is more critical than ever.
