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Sebha [Pharma 200]
Pharma 200, a plant in the Sebha Oasis 650 km south of Tripoli, has been alleged to be a chemical weapons (CW) production facility. Construction of the Sebha plant, said to be located underground at a military base, reportedly began in the 1980s. By 1990, at the time of the initial allegations involving Sebha, the plant was said to be nearly complete. The Pharma 200 facility was said to be designed using the same plans as for Pharma 150, the CW plant at Rabta, and it was reported that the Sebha plant was almost identical to the one at Rabta. There have been no allegations of CW production at Sebha in recent years.
The Sebha facility has also been linked to Libyan biological weapons (BW) efforts.
Prior to the release of the 28 May 2004 IAEA report, this facility was not previously associated with Libya's nuclear weapons program in the open literature. It is unclear whether the US intelligence community had associated this facility with Libya's nuclear ambitions prior to the year 2003, when Libya decided to abandon the weapons program.
The yellow cake storage facility at Sabha was termed Site F by the IAEA.
In 1980 the West German firm, Orbital Transport-und-Raketen Aktiengesellschaft (OTRAG) built a rocket-testing base in the Libyan desert. A test flight was reported from either the Sebha Oasis or the Jarmah Oasis on 01 March 1981. OTRAG became inactive in late 1984, and this effort soon collapsed.
A London report [The Sunday Correspondent (London), 8 Oct 89, FBIS-WEU 10 Oct 89, p. 12.] claimed that, in October 1989, about 100 German engineers were working on a 500-750-km missile system, code-named "Ittisalt," in a desert camp about 100 km from Sebha, the site of the earlier OTRAG work and also the location of an alleged second Libyan chemical weapons complex. The missile work was reported to be in the research and development stage.
Sabha is located in central Libya, at Latitude 27.0333 Longitude 14.4333. Sabha is one of the municipalities of Libya. It is in the center of the country. Its capital is Sabha.
Sebha [Sabha], a town of less than 40,000 people deep in the Fezzan desert, is also one of the main cities of Libya. It is distinguished by wide streets and white buildings which are mostly of one or two stories. Its singular social pattern gives it a unique personality. It is a modern oasis in the midst of the desert -- forest and green gardens invigorate both inhabitants and visitors. The modern Sebha was been built on the debris of an old town. It represents the development Libya has attained in a short time after the overthrow of the old regime by the Revolution inf 1969. The older buildings have been preserved for visitors and tourists to see.
Sebha has little to offer except accommodation, serving as the natural base for travel in the Fezzan area. The Ramlat Dawada area, with 11 lakes in the very middle of Sahara, is within reach of Sebha. The sand is almost red. There are many strange things in these lakes, one of which actually changes color, between green, red and blue, probably due to algae. Another is as salty as the Dead Sea. People from this area has been despised by Libyans in general, as they eat worms from the lakes [not actually worms, but a kind of prawn].
Sebha's main attraction must be its connection to Gadhafi - the high school he attended where his political awakening started. In 1959 the 15-year-old son of Abu Meniar and Aissha al-Qaddafi first heard Egypt's charismatic leader, Gamal Abdul Nasser, on the radio program, "Voice of the Arabs," beamed from Cairo. The school now is in normal use, looking in from outside. Sebha was the sources of the First September Revolution of 1969, and it was the pace where the Jamahiriya was announced in the "Declaration on the Authority of the People" on 2 March 1977.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Any proof? Or just a claim made by the MSM?
Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
Simple fact: you don't give out guns to the people, unless the people are on your side.
So either this is all orchestrated by the west as a false flag for attack, or the rebel uprising is considerably smaller than it was made out to be.
Originally posted by Cobaltic1978
If any citizens stand up against their government, then they should expect the same support. i.e bombing all of the airfields, naval bases and other military installations.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Itop1
Libya MIGHT have a giant dinosaur reconstructed from DNA out in the waters off its shores that it plans to call up and turn on the "West" too.
Gaddafi MIGHT be in contact with hostile aliens with a taste for "western" flesh and this is all a ploy to get us down there where we can be harvested more easily.
"Might" is really not a good argument when it comes to starting a war.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Soshh
So your proof that the media is not lying about Gaddafi attacking his own people is the media reporting that Gaddafi attacked his own people.
Clever that.
Originally posted by Soshh
This is incredibly basic knowledge for anyone who has kept even a casual eye on the situation in Libya.
n logic, an argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges: "If many believe so, it is so."
Originally posted by SoshhIf you can't be arsed to do your own research then I'm certainly not going to do it for you.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by Soshh
This is incredibly basic knowledge for anyone who has kept even a casual eye on the situation in Libya.
In this, you are arguing that the media is a reliable source to tell us what is actually going on in Libya, AND, you are commiting a logical fallacy by pretending that something being widely "known" makes it valid.
Originally posted by SoshhIf you can't be arsed to do your own research then I'm certainly not going to do it for you.
But here is the problem. YOU made a claim about his military and I asked you to support your claim. If you cant be arsed to support your own claims........... Its the job of the person making the argument to support it, not the person challenging the argument. Why should I do you work for you?
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Soshh
In other words, you have nothing.
Originally posted by Itop1
Libya could have more chemical weapons than we know, or even Nukes?