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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Looks like we got a winner! Thanks for actually being honest and saying how you see it.
I think everyone sees this too, but we have a problem.
Almost everyone is in denial, and they are scared out of their minds. So they refuse to admit how bad this has become. They want to watch their little war and focus on that for awhile. Or something, ANYTHING just not Fukushima please!!!
They are in denial of reality. Large areas of Honshu Island in Japan will have to be evacuated and will be rendered uninhabitable. Potentially even Tokyo....
Who knows the effects of the fallout cloud that is going through North America and on to Europe? No body. But we all know its' gonna suck real bad.
And this is just due to a few things going wrong. Just think if things really started to go wrong? We have 100s of reactors all over the world. Humanity is on the brink of total annihilation and we didn't even realize that all it takes is a few 9 EQ's and a tsunami or two and bam, theres the human race down the tubes.
Originally posted by HiMyNameIsMike
reply to post by Helious
Good post. I've been thinking all week that they are just saying they are trying to keep the radiation in, while knowing that everything they do will be for nothing. Like when all the radiation has been expelled [ whenever that will be ] - - or they may even do it themselves , they will finally just say, "Okay! We've stopped the leak!"
Oh, and speaking of DIVERSIONS.. another oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.. convenient? The entire planet is one gargantuan conspiracy.edit on 20-3-2011 by HiMyNameIsMike because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hadriana
I'm just totally confused.
I feel like a dog that was getting too hyped up so his master wagged a beggin strip and threw it in the other direction.
Woof.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
The implications of this are ground shattering, they really are. If Tokyo has to be evacuated, that will destroy the global economy. Can you imagine a future of no Japan the way we think of it today? I can't , its frightening and disturbing, but part of me says to just let go and accept it, because it's inevitable.
Radioactive waste doesn't disappear in a few days, each element has it's own half-life. Iodine 131 decays in like 2 or 3 weeks sure. But Cesium 137 takes a century to decay. This is pretty messed up for sure.
I wish I was just full of it, I wish I didn't understand this situation and what it possibly means for the human race, but geez man this combined disaster is just the most epic thing I've ever witnessed and it's off the hook.
Originally posted by Helious
The square footage of land vs contamination does not bode well and if this as I suspect not only rival but exceed the 7 on the international scale for nuclear disasters, Japan is just not large enough to house any life for quite some time to come.
Originally posted by Danbones
I see a lot of distractions from the important things like the salt water.
that's a last ditch effort right there
remember ground zero
no worries there
its safe to breath.
when I see "as if you don't trust the govrnment"
thats all the reason I need to not trust the government.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by Helious
The square footage of land vs contamination does not bode well and if this as I suspect not only rival but exceed the 7 on the international scale for nuclear disasters, Japan is just not large enough to house any life for quite some time to come.
We could be looking at multiple 7's. Or a 10, whatever you wanna call it.
I call it a nightmare come true.
Not to mention the fact that Fukushima Dai-ni had accidents.
Onagawa plant had an accident.
Tokai plant had an accident.
And Rokkasho fuel processing plant had an accident.
Most of those other accidents were only rated 2's and 3's on the international scale. But that's still outright insanity. 11 plants shut down, plus other crap. Can you imagine if the quake was a 9.6 and if the Tsunami was 10 feet taller? I can't....
Here is a link for actual information about those other accidents.
2011 Japan Nuc Accidents Wiki
Originally posted by HiMyNameIsMike
Another thing I feel that is worth mentioning is all this talk of evacuation.
Like you [ Helios ] said, they are quite a small island for the amount of radiation facing expulsion. People are wondering to themselves, "Well, why aren't they trying to evacuate them?" - - for one, of course [ and probably most importantly, as it always is in politics ] financial reasons. They don't have the money to evacuate people, and neither do other countries.
Next, where would the people go? - - There are [ before the quake, and tsunami ] approximately 130 million people in Japan. If there is a plan that can evacuate on that large a scale, please present it.
Finally, if they COULD evacuate the people, by the time they secured the funds, got everything in motion, there would most likely be wide-spread radiation, including people carrying radiation. So, they would probably bring the radiation with them, and affect the areas they are brought to.
I'm not against evacuating Japan, I just don't see how it's even remotely possible.
My heart aches for them, it truly is a tragedy
-Mike
Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by Helious
The salt water at temp corrodes the casings of the fuel rods and then they relase the radiactive fuel pellets
the pellets fall into the smashed up floor and tumble down
if enough pellets collect in one place the temp is high enough to melt whatever it is sitting on and it won't stop till it reaches water
which will steam pressure blast the contamination start up a mile or so
also there is contamination of the ground water
they are on shore so out to sea it goes...
they won't tell us
BP and the oil spill would be an accurate template of how the corporate government will handle this.
also
The PTB have oracles
both old and new fangled
at the top I doubt they are as suprised as we are
when things happen.
even the bugs will be contaminated.edit on 20-3-2011 by Danbones because: (no reason given)